In reply to Mudturkle, i must first say that no scripture is of private interpretation, as described in
2 Peter 1:20-21. And now I will reply to what you have stated.
Alright, Revelation 17:5,
To begin i will first make it clear that this one verse has so much meaning and translation that it will fill a entire
notebook. Revelation as a book, is very complicated and very detailed. And one without the covering of christ and
guidence of the holyspirit will not obtain it's true meaning. It's like not bringing a gun to gunfight. You must have
the "right" tools to do the "Correct" job. Now I mean nothing by this to you, but i want to make sure this is known
before anyone, including me teaches the "Word Of God". One must remember this world is corrupted and displeases
god in every scenerio. So is the worlds "logic" towards the bible and its meaning spiritual guidance? By all means no,
and to recieve the word; in the most literal sense, one must forget the world and what it believes and put there faith
in the word and fear God to recieve knowledge. Because knowledge and understanding comes from him and him only.....
Now The KJV version of Revelation 17:5 reads as followed.
And upon her forehead was a name written, mystery, babylon the great, the mother of harlots and abominations
of the earth.
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Now lets break it down: #1 And upon her forehead was a name written,
-self explanitory-
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#2
-To start off one must understand the meaning of "mystery" biblically. Mystery comes from the greek term
"musterion". Which means "something which is beyond natural knowledge, but revealed to us by a divine
revelation from the holy spirit. So what mystery does our bible tell us about.
The one mystery God kept was revealed though Jesus Christ. And that mystery was that "through jesus christ , both
jews and gentiles have been brought together in one body. And the body of Christ is the church. And one body
suggests one church. So one church consisting of both jews and gentiles will form babylon the great, the mother
of harlots and abominations of the earth.
Now factually, Jews of Isreal today still see gentiles(anyone who is not a jew) as unclean. Let alone want want to share
the church with them. Revelation 17:5 does not describe Isreal simply because it's still as it was in the past as it is
today, and it will be that way until jesus's second coming. Isreal has not sold intself but in reality preserved itself.
Kinda like dinosaurs waiting to be uncovered. Now remember anyone can sell fruits and products, but this is not the
case. When we say the "Mother of Harlots" we are speaking of a Order/Church specifically. The translation would
sound similar to this," The First/Greatest Order/Church To Sell/Prostitute Itself. So this church did not only sell
itself for riches to gain tremendous assets but was infiltrated by the mixing of many religions. Almost similar
to the tower of babel. And to make it clear the Jews DID NOT LET ANY RELIGION OR BELIEF INTO ITS OWN.
Which clearly excludes Isreal from this topic.
Now I agree that the mother must exist before the daughter. And that mother came only into Existence in 313 And
upon her forehead was a name written "Roman Catholic Church". And all harlots from then on formed from it. Yes,
Isreal was unfaithful and a prostitute, but god forgave Isreal and loved him anyways. You dont forgive someone and
then turn around a condemn them. God is true and will keep his promise.
Zech 5:5-11 speaks of the new babylon. You see how in verse 11 it says when its "ready", they will set the basket
there on its pedestal. That means the time(then) has not come but will come in the future. So it's kinda confussing
if you dont understand it completely. And one must know that God is not that Author of Confussion. If you ask for a
fish god will not give you a snake. So if the word says that the harlot sits on 7 hills that means 7 hills.
"The 7 Hills Of Rome"
1. Aventine
2. Palentine
3. Capitoline
4. Caelian
5. Quirinal
6. Viminal
7. Esquiline
Study them.
I will right more but im just exercising what i said earlier. This one verse can fill a notebook. but i believe the point is across. if not ill keep going with the help of the lord.
Well I hope I gave you a little insight. Im sorry for not supporting everything with good biblical verses. I just wanted this letter to be more informal then resourceful.
. But I'll give all biblical verses pertaining to everything above in a
second post. Thanks and god bless, Irish John also known as Sean. : )