ArchivedJesuss Deity... :: To OmegaTo Omega
The author recognized no such thing!! The author narrated Jesus’ enemies’ accusations against him. The author recorded the accusation that “Jesus claimed to make himself equal to God”. You weren’t supposed to take the side of the accusers! You won’t supposed to believe the words of Jesus’ accusers!! Did Jesus ever break the sabbath? Of course not! Therefore how can one accusation be false and the other be true? NO! BOTH accusations are FALSE! From that very moment, Jesus begins to refute the accusation that he is ‘equal with GOD’. Did Jesus actually say, “that he was equal with GOD” NO! His accusers said it!! Listen to the words of Jesus himself ... listen to what HE SAID …
These are not the words of ‘deity’. These are the words of a man - total humanity. A MAN who is totally dependant upon Almighty GOD for all things ... A MAN who is totally dependant upon Almighty GOD doing the signs, wonders and miracles. As Jesus said ”the Father … He doeth the works” (John 14:10 cp. Acts 2.22 miracles and wonders and signs, which GOD did THROUGH him) Throughout John 5:19-47, Jesus refutes any suggestion that he is somehow (co-)equal to Almighty GOD. Whose report will you believe? The words of Christ or the words of his accusers. Think about that very slowly. Allow me to say a similar thing, worded differently. We indeed have GOD in us via His Spirit. We ought to allow the word of God and Christ dwell in us richly. [Col 3:16] Christ is indeed with us via the spirit of GOD. (Gal 4:6) And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. But please note ... Jesus is the word of GOD made flesh. God’s word embodied so to speak. He speaks the very words of GOD Himself. GOD’s word(s) is GOD’s own word(s). And Jesus is Jesus, the man who speaks the words of GOD. Note the distinction. You can’t just substitute or equate Jesus every time ‘Word of GOD’ is mentioned. There are still two entirely different subjects/things.
1) The Bible does not speak of God being manifested in 3 essences or GOD being 3 essences - you will find no verse in Scripture that states that! 2) The Body of Christ was not raised from the dead. It was ‘the man Christ Jesus’ that indeed was raised from the dead!! I keep picking up these dualistic overtones, as if you trying to make Christ, somehow ‘two’; that is, he is Body & ‘something else’??? This dualism has its roots in Gnosticism, Platonism and Greek/Roman philosophy. NO! The scriptures speak of the resurrection of the DEAD not the resurrection of the body!! The same goes for Jesus of Nazareth. The scriptures speak of the resurrection of Jesus NOT the resurrection of his body. HE was killed. HE was slain. HE died. HE was buried. HE was raised from [among] the dead by GOD Almighty. HE now possesses immortality. We ought to speak the language of scripture. Scripture speaks of the raising up of human beings not bodies. Granted ... in the First Resurrection, those who are raised from the dead will be clothed with immortality. However, it is the ‘whole man’ that dies ... therefore, it is the ‘whole man’ that shall be raised from the dead. To use technical language, the Bible speaks of humans as being ”a psychosomatic unity of body and spirit”. The same goes for Jesus of Nazareth. 3) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, ... Note, it was in THESE LAST DAYS that GOD had spoken unto us by [a] Son and NOT BEFORE!! GOD prior to this had spoken via the prophets, via visions, via similitudes, etc [Hosea 12:10, Num 12:6-8] but it wasn’t until THESE LAST DAYS that he spoken directly THROUGH His Son. Why? Because His Son did not exist! He wasn’t born yet! It’s that simple. You would think this verse alone should end any discussion about a pre-existent Son of God. 4) ... whom he hath appointed heir of all things, …THROUGH whom also he made the ages; the word ‘by’ is the Greek word ’dia’ as mentioned above. The word ‘worlds’ is actually the plural of the Greek word ‘aion’ which means ‘age’. GOD appointed Jesus His Son to be heir of all things (cp. Psa 2:8 ) THROUGH and for whom he made the ages, hence Jesus will be the ‘father of the age to come’. GOD made the ages [Heb 11:3] with His Son in view, however, it wasn’t until the fulness of times [Gal 4:4] before His Son was born. 5) You asked ”If the Word is God and the Word became flesh, is it not also God?” NO! Because the word ‘God’ as in the ‘word was God’ is being used adjectively. It is being used to DESCRIBE GOD’s word. (The Greek text actually reads, “god/theos was the word”) John was a monotheistic Jew. He was not presenting ‘another being’ alongside GOD who was himself GOD! No. That is ditheism. John was no trinitarian or binitarian. He was a ONE GOD Believer. John was simply paraphrasing what the Hebrew Bible already says about the ‘making of all things’
As a matter of fact, the majority of the English Bibles before the KJV, that is from Tyndale’s original translation onwards (e.g. Tyndale’s Bible, the Bishop’s Bible, the Great Bible, the Geneva Bible, etc) all translated John 1:1-3 using ‘it’ not ‘him’ e.g.
A word is an ‘it’ not a him. Sadly, trinitarian-induced bias prevailed, and from the KJV onwards, our English bibles have ‘him’ in verse 3. However, this does not change the fact that John is speaking about GOD’s mighty word, His spoken word, through which all things have been made. In the fulness of time, GOD’s word became flesh in the person of JESUS CHRIST. JESUS CHRIST is what the word of GOD became! Let me sum this up with a quote from
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Comparing me with muslims, is neither here or there. As Jesus asked, what is written in the law? How readest thou? [Luke 10:26] The Scriptures teach that GOD is spirit, GOD is not a man, GOD is eternal, GOD is immortal, He alone possesses immortality inherently; GOD is invisible, GOD cannot lie, and the list goes on ... The Bible clearly does NOT teach that GOD can die much less become a man. It’s just a shame that their isn’t a lot more right-minded, right-doctrinated Christians around to teach the muslims, the truth of the word instead of wasting valuable time trying to convince them of a GOD-MAN doctrine and a triune God doctrine, which neither the prophets, apostles or the Messiah ever spoke about. It’s real shame. BTW I am no muslim; neither do I condone their doctrines. I see them in as much error as those who worship a triune GOD that the Scriptures do not speak of. What was it that someone once said? ... Ah yes ...
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