Greetings H2O,
Thanks for your closing comments…
Quote:
Allah
It is the proper noun applied to the Supreme Being, who is the sole possesor of all perfect attributes, who is free from all defects and who exist necessarily by Himself. It is not a common noun. All Divine attributes mentioned in the Quran are qualities of the proper name Allah. No other language has a distinctive name for the Divine Being. The names found in other languages are either attributive or descriptive and can be used in the plural form, but the word Allah is never used for any other thing, being or deity. It is never used as a qualifying word. Sibwaih and Khalil say, Since "Al" in the begining of the word Allah is inseperable from it so it is a simple substantive, not derived from any word. The word Allah is not a contraction of al-ilah, as some people tend to believe, but quite a different word.
The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, page 28
Hold the presses….
You mean that a copy of Omar’s dictionary still languishes in your Denny’s funded apartment?
You specifically told me numerous times to burn my copy of Omar’s work, and now you are quoting from it?!
Can you say hypocrite?
Omar quotes Sibwaih and Khalil (whom are not Ahmadiyyah muslims) whom is obviously quoting Edward W. Lane also.
So….now, since you were finally able to comprehend that Omar’s work has
ALWAYS been an integration of the world renown classic Arabic Lexicons – it now has your blessing…?
I really appreciate that you saved his book from a fiery death…
Lane makes mention of authority in his work that the name is NOT DERIVED whom listed it as "the most correct opinions respecting it" whom only lists some of the authority and not all of them that numbered over 30 in which Omar also mentions some of them.
Oh brother….
The “not derived” pertains to the definite article
ال “al” portion of “allah” –
NOT the word “allah” itself…!
Omar is quoting Lane’s Lexicon, as you were so kind to quote below…
Quote:
الله{alllaah}, [written with the disjunctive alif الله, meaning God, i.e. the only true god,] accord. to the most correct opinions respecting it, which are twenty in number, (K,) or more than thirty, (MF,) is a proper name, (Msb, K,) applied to the Being who exists necessarily, by Himself, comprising all the attributes of perfection; (TA
a proper name denoting the true god, comprising all the excellent divine names; a unity comprising all the essence of existing things; (Ibn-El’Arabee, TA
the ال being inseparable from it: (Msb: ) not derived.....
Edward William Lane, Arabic Lexicon
You really are struggling at this point…
Once again…the “not derived” pertains to the definite article
ال “al” portion of “allah” –
NOT the word “allah” itself…!
Lane in his Preface xxvi says :
Quote:
I have inserted nothing in my lexicon without indicating at least one authority for it, except interwoven additions of my own which I have ivariably distinguished by enclosing them between square brackets. [ ]
It is evident that you use Omar or Lane when it suits you to do so, ignoring the authority of the other if it is against you, however it is evident from you if Omar said oposite you would have quoted him. You used Omar as a source of authority which you should not have done, this allowed us to use it AGAINST you when you know very will the source you used as authority contradicts your wanton efforts to prevert such a word with your evil ambition.
Actually, I use Lane, Omar, Penrice, Hava, and others because they all reference the classic Arabic and they each compliment and supplement one another.
Furthermore, I have already demonstrated (and you acknowledged) that Omar’s work overridingly quotes Lane’s Lexicon – thus, your argument (once again) is one from silence…
The enemies of Islam, a popular anti Islam website, have summed up Lane about the derivation of the word says :
Quote:
The spelling (rasm) "'lyh" was even involved in finding the ultimate orthography for God's name "Allaah" in Arabic. It is hard to believe that "Allaah" goes back to Arabic "al-'ilaah", as Edward William Lane summarizes the traditional theoretical efforts of the Arab grammarians in his Arabic-English Lexicon...........
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Sources/alaha2.html
They summoned Lane's work to refute the name is derived from the word ilah and its theory contraction or even its supposed root which is even doubted it self of being derived from aliha or alaha Arabic root in Lanes work.
The Arabic root does not support tripple L or a Y radical which are part of the name Alllaah
We will leave this like it is, respond as you wish, we know you will inorder to defend your pride. Verily it must be a black thing
See you on another thread (((( waves ))))
What did I tell ya….you are ”googling” like a mad-man in an attempt to “defend” why you want to worship a pagan moon “god”….
First of all, the Answering Islam team is your buddy – not your enemy.
They are trying their best to save lost souls (like yourself) from suffering the second death (lake of fire)….
Secondly, you just posted evidence for my position!
Your quote shows
US that the Answering Islam team understands that “allah” is derived from the root “ilaha” – per Lane’s lexicon.
Deedat recognizes the root, Lane recognizes the root, the answering Islam team recognizes the root ……what exactly is your problem….?
Especially since you are totally inept at stating where “allah” was “arabicized” from….lol…
Let me ask once again, and
WE shall see if you are a devout enough in your “faith” to answer me…
If you feel that your “god” was “arabicized”, then bring forth verifiable references to support your opinion!
Where was “allah” “arabicized” from?
Is this too direct of a question for you….?
You haven’t been able to do anything of the sort because you know the score….and the score is that there is
NO evidence to support that “allah” was ever “arabicized” in the first place.
The overwhelming evidence is that “allah” was derived from a root stemming from pagan Arabic idol worship…
Furthermore, by adhering to the “arabicized” theory, you are admitting that the “god” that you worship is simply a hand-me-down-copied-left-over “god” from some preexisting culture…
Is this what you want….?
Looks that way to
US….
Time to just accept this cold, hard, fact of life…
Thanks…