Aineo wrote:Lets see, you say the Son is subject to the Godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) but is ultimately subject to the Father? Whose thinking lacks depth? Also Scripture states inequitably that Jesus is a man, it is those who think Jesus is God the Son who have to interpret Scripture to support his belief.
Now Believer, if your only tactic when you are backed into a corner is to resort to personal attacks your posts will be deleted.
Was Jesus always a man? Are you sure about that? Scripture doesn't support that. Where have I attacked you? So we mutually question each other's beliefs.
The "we" in the Statement of Faith are Trinitarians. Now, if you will take the time to check out this forum you will see that the webmaster has been seeking input from members since 2004 so we can update our Statement of Faith:
http://www.jesus-christ-forums.com/home/viewforum.php?f=148
Now, I cannot speak for the webmaster but in 2004 I was a Trinitarian. I changed my position last year by putting Scripture in context and researching the Hebraic roots of Christianity so I could understand the cultural idioms used in the NT. The Unitarian position (not to be confused with Universalist Unitarianism) is the Hebraic foundation of Christianity. When we study Peter's, Paul's, John's, and James' recorded words and their epistles they are clear there is but one true God the Father.
I've read accounts of Christians converting to Islam and stuff. Were these people ever really Christians? Was Aineo a Trinitarian like me? No, or he'd still believe. Aineo shows me his arguments, but I remain unconvinced.
Whether believing Christ is God or not, does this change ones eternal destiny of those who are in the Christian faith? And don't mean to go off-topic, but how do Christians know how Jesus really looked like? The member Believer has a picture of Jesus, is this how he looked like?
Basically, Superman, you either know God or don't. If one is a Unitarian and dies and Jesus is really part of the Trinity, then that person doesn't really know who Jesus is. I believe Jesus is merciful and may give that person a last-minute chance to know Him.
John 8:24
For if you do not believe that I AM, you will die in your sins."
It's very serious if one denies the full nature of Christ.
Doesn't it seem odd to you that if these two guys are right, that the majority of Christians are very lost misguided people? Would God let His Church fall like that? This is an issue of Faith, this argument about the Trinity, Jesus's divine nature, and preexistence, in addition to understanding Scripture.