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Hi Apple
I miss you alot

Apple Pie wrote:

fdjohan wrote:

You just repeating what Al-Qur'an says in surah (29:48).
'And thou (O Muhammad) wast not a reader of any scripture before it, nor didst thou write it with thy right hand, for then might those have doubted who follow falsehood'.

Why do you have to repeating the words?
1. 'And thou (O Muhammad) wast not a reader of any scripture before it,
2. nor didst thou write it with thy right hand

You blaspheme when you state that مُحَمَّدٌ appears anywhere in sura 29.

Why force a lie into your own scriptures?

Have some respect for the authors who penned your book of faith.

just by look at these words people will understand who ALLAH talking to
- 1. wast not a reader of any scripture before it
- 2. In that case, indeed, would the talkers of vanities have doubted.

You are standing in a lonesome island Apple Pie. People know. You don't know. Why do you have to corner your self?

It is clear AL-Qur'an says that Prophet(see-saw) didn't write any verses include 103 nor read any other scripture.

Fact of the matter is….your book of faith gives ZERO credit to Islam’s so-called “prophet”.

He did not write it.
He did not dictate it.
He did nothing.

Too bad. You TALK to loud but people will laugh at you.
Muslims has 2 sources not just Al-Qur'an.
You don't even know that Hadith is exist?
You tried to IGNORE our "LITERATURE" but you your self using literature.
You are become so weak when we faced you by literature.

As you already admitted…..all straight from your book of faith.

Why exactly is a “no-body” elevated to such a “regarded” status in Islam anyway?

Well... when we faced you by Hadith and history, you seem speechless. Do nothing but keep repeating words. Argue merely by talk.

You're tried to make Tafsir of Al-Qur'an and you don't even know to whom God of Islam talked to:

Surah 047.002
But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to Muhammad - for it is the Truth from their Lord,- He will remove from them their ills and improve their condition.

No need to say the name
You don't know averything about Al-Qur'an don't you.

Sent down to مُحَمَّد …...why do you want to make it out to be Islam’s “prophet”…..?

Let’s define the premise of your “argument”…

مُحَمَّد = “muhammadun”

“muhammadun” definition:

A man praised much, or repeatedly, or time after time; endowed with many praiseworthy qualities. It comes from the root “hamida”, which means he praised, eulogized, or commended him; spoke well of him; mentioned him with approbation; sometimes because of favor received. Also implies admiration; and it implies the magnifying, or honoring, of the object thereof; and lowliness, humility, or submissiveness, in the person who offers it. He declared the praises of God or he praised God much with good forms of praise.

Reference:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume two, pp. 638 - 640

مُحَمَّد could refer to anyone.

You said you know anything about Arab. But you don't know that Arabic people formed that names with a good meaning.
For example:

Mansur - Divinely aided, victorious
Marghub - Desirable, coveted
Marid - Rebellious
Ma'ruf - Well-known, good
Marzuq - Blessed by God, fortunate
Mash'al - Torch
Mashhur - Famous
Masrur - Happy, joyful
Mas'ud - Fortunate, happy, lucky
Masun - Well-protected, sheltered
Maysarah - Of comfort, ease
Mazhar - Appearance

ETC.

Muhammad is a masculine arabic name. The meaning of the name:
Praised, praiseworthy.

My question: WHY don't you make the same claim as the name "MOSES?"
SEE BELOW.

Dear people in this forum. Again and again Apple Pie movement in this forum showing us how he is so blind about Al-Qur'an
This statement of his make it more worse.
He doesn't know that there are 4 times name "MUHAMMAD" mention in AL-Qur'an. Surah 3:144, 33:40, 47:2 and 48:29

Let's forget about who you are, Muslims or Christians, but this thing will show you how Apple Pie so blind about Al-Qur'an.

This thing below --is another stupidity of Apple Pie.

The situation must be getting pretty bleak on your side, now that you have resorted to name calling.

However…observe the switch that you just made.

Now, instead of proclaiming that your so-called “prophet” is mentioned in suras that do not even bare his so-called “name”; you have pigeon-holed the “actual” Koranic ayahs (that you feel contain his name) down to just 4…!

4 or 10 or 20, we have no problem.

After you searched the entire Koran from start to finish, these four ayahs are all that you could come up with as evidence that you somehow “feel” mentions your "prophet"….?

Out of the entire Koran…..you can come up with only four ayahs that you feel even remotely mention your “prophet”…..?

Moses is mentioned 136 times and is specifically called a Prophet.

What happened to yours…?

HOW COME you say MOSES specifically CALLED A PROPHET?
In Hebrew Moses means "saved; child; taken from water", "saviour."
IT COULD REFER TO ANYONE
You wrong Apple Pie.

It's not about how many time tha names was mention. It's about "YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NAME MUHAMMAD EXIST IN THE AL-QUR'AN"

Quote:
You can’t even find his name in your book of faith…let alone that he actually wrote or even dictated it to someone else.


Surah 3:144


Transliteration:
Wama muhammadun illa rasoolun qad khalat min qablihi alrrusulu afain mata aw qutila inqalabtum AAala aAAqabikum waman yanqalib AAala AAaqibayhi falan yadurra Allaha shayan wasayajzee Allahu alshshakireena

Translation:
Muhammad is no more than an apostle: many Were the apostle that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then Turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.
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So..... مُحَمَّد is a messenger….?

If this is the case, then مُحَمَّد could refer to anyone or anything…..not the “prophet” of Islam…

Give us your translation context to the word. "MUHAMMAD RASOOLOOLLAH".

Surah 33:40


Transliteration:
Ma kana muhammadun aba ahadin min rijalikum walakin rasoola Allahi wakhatama alnnabiyyeena wakana Allahu bikulli shayin AAaleeman

Translation:
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of
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Again… مُحَمَّد could refer to anyone or anything…..not the “prophet” of Islam…

OW GOSH!! you said about ANYTHING. You made Other mistake.

Answer as below.

Surah 3:144
Muhammad is no more than an apostle: many Were the apostle that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then Turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.

WHAT "thing" is no more than an Apostle?
Is that verse talking about a MAN or a THING?

Surah 33:40
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle

Tell to FORUM that Muhammad in that word is a THING.

Surah 47:2
But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to Muhammad - for it is the Truth from their Lord,- He will remove from them their ills and improve their condition.

Tell to FORUM that Muhammad in that word is a THING.

Surah 48:29
Muhammad is the apostle of Allah

Tell to FORUM that Muhammad in that word is a THING.

Apple Pie, you make everything worst. It's not about believing Qur'an or Bible. You can't even adjust your exegesis for the words before and the next. How can you say ANYTHING context to those 4 sentences?
I have no problem about this, but you can't think that people in this forum all "DUMB".

Surah 47:2


Transliteration:
Waallatheena amanoo waAAamiloo alssalihati waamanoo bima nuzzila AAala muhammadin wahuwa alhaqqu min rabbihim kaffara AAanhum sayyiatihim waaslaha balahum

Translation:
But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to Muhammad - for it is the Truth from their Lord,- He will remove from them their ills and improve their condition.
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Sent down to مُحَمَّد …..again…..why do you want to make it out to be Islam’s “prophet”…..?

We discussed this above.

Surah 48:29


Transliteration:
Muhammadun rasoolu Allahi waallatheena maAAahu ashiddao AAala alkuffari ruhamao baynahum tarahum rukkaAAan sujjadan yabtaghoona fadlan mina Allahi waridwanan seemahum fee wujoohihim min athari alssujoodi thalika mathaluhum fee alttawrati wamathaluhum fee alinjeeli kazarAAin akhraja shatahu faazarahu faistaghlatha faistawa AAala sooqihi yuAAjibu alzzurraAAa liyagheetha bihimu alkuffara waAAada Allahu allatheena amanoo waAAamiloo alssalihati minhum maghfiratan waajran AAatheeman

Translation:
Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.
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So..... مُحَمَّد is a messenger once again….?

See above.

Now that we are in mutual understanding that neither your co-called “prophet”….nor your god “allah” are mentioned in sura 103…..nor do they hold any credibility in reference to sura 103 whatsoever….what exactly do you have to say regarding sura 103?

Are you now ready to acknowledge that sura 103 clearly mandates that you must take Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior…?

Where in the world I can find name JESUS CHRIST in that verse?
What is the reason you OMMIT my reference about a sahaba as a witness of surah 103? Are you speechless about that?

You can’t keep running away from the truth forever.