Endurance wrote:
Friend, I did not make a personal interpretation of the scripture. I was saying that these churches and the man of sin are synonomous. I was not saying that 2 Thess, said all that I said. But was rather saying who this man of sin is. I was not interpreting the scripture. Just as you saying Nero is the man of sin is not interpreting the scripture. To interpret it, one would have to state what it means.
While you make some good points and have valid reasons for saying that Nero is this man of sin, which I do not disagree or agree with, I'm sure you'll acknowledge that many prophecies in the bible have an immediate fulfillment and a later one.
Now, if you had a problem with my qoute, knowing that I am not interpreting scripture but showing how some things relate to these institutions just as you relate them to Nero, please feel free to tell me.
This man of sin (the churches) is being revealed. And he certainly has exalted himself above God. He has put his doctrines above the truth. He has put his teachings above those of Christ. And he even thinks that he is the sheperd over God's church. This wicked body is not the Church of God. But that of Man.
My purpose was to get you to think about what has come from this Mystery Babylon religion that reinforces it. I was not trying to shift the conversation to who the man of sin is and my only reason for referring to my thread was to hint towards what I'm getting at.
With all of that being said. As far as Nero Ceasar goes, it does seem as though you're right b/c scripture does back what you say (keep in mind that I have not yet taken the time to look deeper into the matter but I will check out your thread if that 12 points thing is one), but what of the spiritaul man of sin? What of the spiritual confusion (Babylon) that has engulfed the Earth? These are the things which I'm speaking about and not any mere man.
God bless friend
With Love,
Ok. I said "Personal Interpretation" because you 'interpret' that the 'man of sin' is/are the 'churches',
This man of sin (the churches) is being revealed.
which 2 Thessalonians 2:3 does not say so...
Just a brotherly advice, PLEASE READ and MEDITATE the entire 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 and GET the "WHOLE MESSAGE",
then COMPARE these specific verses:
2 Thessalonias 2:4
Revelation 13:5-10
Daniel 7:25 and
Daniel 11:36.
If you say that the 'man of sin' is/are the 'churches', then you're wrong.
Friend, I did not make a personal interpretation of the scripture. I was saying that these churches and the man of sin are synonomous. I was not saying that 2 Thess, said all that I said. But was rather saying who this man of sin is.
This man of sin (the churches) is being revealed.
You're NOT supported by what the word of God said.
If you want to STUDY the 12 Major Biblical Events in the Book of Revelation, it is posted at the bottom part of page 1 on this posting:
http://www.jesus-christ-forums.com/home/viewtopic.php?t=4664
I just want to REMIND you that you CANNOT GET the message if you are ALREADY PRE-OCCUPIED. IT COULD BE "OVERWHELMING", especially if you DEPEND on your "own knowledge and wisdom".
APPROACH GOD'S WORD IN EMPTINESS....
As Martin Luther said (if I'm not mistaken), "The Word of God is like a lion, you just loose it and he knows how to defend himself".
God Bless Us All!