Religious Cults & False Prophets~ Discussions and DebatesDistinct PersonsOne... 3... Equal in length in the illustration - yes. (notice how I am giving you clear answers?) Okay... As per the illustration, each line is sub-ordinate, in a sense, to the whole triangle, which is what I think you mean? Of course, per the labelling of each line, this is incorrect because the Father is not sub-ordinate to anyone or anything, but that is another point (for later perhaps) which will also prove your concept is incorrect. In length, per the diagram. I'm not sure you can draw a realistic distinction between "seperate" and "seperated" but if I understand where you're going you're just trying to say "one is not the other but they are CONNECTED?" 3 Gods which are somehow connected. The reason being if each person is a distinct self- consciousness (and without a distinct self-consciousness they wouldn't each be "persons") then each person is an INDIVIDUAL GOD. It doesn't matter that you call all 3 "one God", you can call anything ANYTHING you want. The reality is that a self-conscious person, who is deity, is "a god/God" - ONE god/God", AUTOMATICALLY. Once you have a person, and that person is a person in and of himself, and that person is not any other person BUT himself, you have ONE BEING already. If that being is deity/divine, that being is a god/God. What you're doing is DESCRIBING, in effect, what would be 3 GODS in any theology, then saying they equal one God all together. So your understanding of what this one God is, is just the SUM OF ALL DEITY THAT EXISTS. But to the ancient Greeks and Romans, the "sum of all deity that (in their minds) existed" was their MANY gods, which would certainly be also described as (divine) "persons". This is what I have been trying to get across to you - the "monotheism" of the doctrine of the Trinity is no different, in reality, from polytheism everywhere else, except you're using the term "God" differently. Your "Godhead" (sum of deity) contains "multiple persons" - pagan religion's Godhead (sum of deity) contains "multiple persons". Multiple persons who are - a) deity and... b) NOT one another is MORE THAN ONE GOD, which is polytheism. If you give a child castor oil, and tell them it's honey, does that MAKE it honey? Would that make it taste sweeter? Your label "one God" is no different, in ESSENCE, than MORE than one God - you're just using the word God differently. An Example of Tri-Unity: Try taking 3 pieces of rope, each equal in length, of the same essence and unite or tie them together! Rope 1:####### Rope 2:####### Rope 3:####### Now lets put them together: ##################### How many ropes do we see? With God the Ropes have always been United! What if I told you that this rope is in actuality 3 ropes United as One? Would you have known? Now that you know that this one rope is actually 3 in Unity, do you now see it as 1 or 3? ![/quote] Even better. Now you have proven my point by using the SAME TERM (rope/ropes) in this analogy. The "one God" ("united rope") is REALLY 3 ROPES TWINED TOGETHER. So individually each one IS STILL ONE ROPE. Follow your own logic (cause you've got it right this time!) 3 ropes = one (united) rope 3 Gods = one (united) God But the 3 are ALREADY GODS BY THEMSELVES, WHICH IS POLYTHEISM. You have 3 Gods equalling a "corporate" God. |
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