Bism Allah alrahmaan alraheem,
Alslam alikom,
Allah said in his Holly book "the Quran"
((Enna nahnoo nazzalna altheker wa enna laho lhafethon))
Sura: Al Hijr, in Aaya number: 9
The meaning: That Allah sent down this Quran from him, and it will be saved because Allah will watch over it alwayes.
lhafethon > " l " in arabic if we put it near a verb give us the meaning that it will continue, "it does not give us the meaning for a past" so here we can know that the holly Quran will be saved alwayes.
Quote: "This was written in Quran about other Holly books."
I will go back again, I really didn't know how I said that. Sorry again.
Dear Loki, this will not change what I said it before about ( the tahreef) > I mean that the Bible is not as what it was before.
600 years between Bible & Quran > in this 600 years Allah didn't sent anybody for the people, 600 years is too long! Don't tell that you are sure that nothing been changed in the Bible!! The mind can't accept that or I can say my mind can't accept that.
In Quran , Allah saved it ....... (what I told you in the beining)..
See I am a normal muslim, I beleive in what I am in as you beleive in what you are in. There are lots of muslims who are in soo deep in Islamic studies, knows more and more.... Lots of Islamic offices are all around the world, If somthing you want to know even for just a knowledge ask a real muslim there do not depend only on people here on forums or to read from christian people who worte about Islam. I hope you understand what I wanted to say.
about what you want me to proof, you can see here some articles:
http://www.quransearch.com/contra.htm
50,000 error in the Bible, too much !!! look here ....
http://www.jamaat.net/bible/AwakeArticle(1957).html
This is just a few examples.
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Quote: "euhm, most of the christians in this discussion forum are well informed about Islam, i can savely say of all the christians in here including myself who read the quran. Are simply not impressed. "
Really!! oh I am really feel soo sorry about that. Inside my heart with all what Allah give me, I know I believe that this Quran is mericle for Islam and for all the people. when I hold the book , the book that have the talk of Allah I feel somthing big in my heart, and with my strong beleive in it I cry when I read it somtimes. Really it makes me soo comfortble inside, everything is explained inside, everything that the person need.
The family relationship, the marrige, the kindness, the work (work) , lots and lots of things, even about what we have to do for Allah... things and things that I can't tell it, It is bigger than I can say somthing about it.
When I hear the Quran in casette (You know we have some Sura's been recorded in casettes by some well known & well Quran reader) when we drive our car we listen to Quran, somtimes before I go to sleep, It makes my soul soo in peace, I am saying that thing & I know that Allah is listen to waht I am saying now).
I know It is diffecult to understad this or to feel this. The Holly Quran is not just a mericle in its words but also in its language. The translation gives you only the meaning! In Arabic I fell the meaning is more stronger goes directly to your heart!
Dear Loki, I said befor (In Islam we have to follow Quran & muhammed) then I explained somthing else, I ment by what I saied, that the muslim person cant be muslim until he beleive in Quran and of what prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) comes with. He is a messnger from Allah and what he says is what Allah wants. Then I said "not even all muslims" Sorry I have not a good english language to explain what I want to say. But I will tell you what I ment.
Some muslims are muslims but the beleive inside their heart vary from person to other person, you have a good person you have a bad person > lots and lots of kinds...... so the more believe in Allah & what Muhammed tell us to do & what Islam wants us to do the more you became a strong muslim.
That what I ment Mr. Loki.
I never & never ment somthing to hurt our prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him). He is bigger than anybody can say somthing about him!
He is the most person Allah love. We alwayes say in Arabic (Habib Allah).
I will tell you somthing, what happened in USA... it is bad for people who are not realted to what Bosh are doing, If what had been done was by a muslim so he might not really understand Islam well or for other reason.
But not from this we said that Islam is for war!
People are vary from one to another depends on the what is his level of strong in his beleive (Sorry for my weak english > but I hope you understad what I ment)
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What you will lose if you read a good Islamic sites?? ha?
TIME???!!!
After this world ends, lots of people will hope that the time can be backwards again, to have time, to figure out the truth!
May Allah bless us!
The truth in what I beleive in, that Allah is one & prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) is the last messnger that Allah sent to the poeple.
Allah gave him the holly Quran, which it contains all what people need help them in their life, It is like the guide for us in this world, who follow it will be in safe, who didn't follow it he be lost!
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and about what you said about love,
I don't have anything to hate you or to hate christains. Yes I do not accept your religion, but at least I beleive in it and in the Bible coz we cant be real muslims antil we beleive in the holly books before.
Bible was sutible before Quran, but why you think Allah send another Holly book to the people? not to say thay the real Bible is false but the time changed and Allah bring Quran with the full things he want us to follow and to do, It is complete! comes with the last messnger that Allah send him to this world.
Nothing let me to hate you, you are a human as me but in different religions. You believe in what you belive , and I believe in what I beleive.
We can talk & discuss in friendly way. I never said bad words about christains. We call you in Arabic (ahl alketaab) It means that you are all & jews people too are people from Holly books that comes before.
Just a question to you Loki,
Are you really comfortable in what you are in? from different corners??
your life, your family relationship, from everything?????
Do the Bible coverd all what a person need in this word, the rules, the very little little things????
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peace be upon him.
ok, at last, I would put some links:
THE AMAZING QUR'AN - Dr. Gary Miller
Calling the Qur'an amazing is not something done only by Muslims, who have an appreciation for the book and who are pleased with it; it has been labeled amazing by non-Muslims as well. In fact, even people who hate Islam very much have still called it amazing.
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Book ... htm#source
THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS
http://sultan.org/articles/Jesus.html
The Bible Led Me to Islam
http://thetruereligion.org/modules/xfse ... icleid=198
The Bible's Last Prophet
http://islamicweb.com/index.asp?folder=bible
The call to non muslims
http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/dawah/index.htm
Jammat.net
http://www.jamaat.net/index.htm
The True Religion
http://islamworld.net/true.html
Discover Islam - The Fastest Growing Religion in the World !
Learn about The Real Islam !
Correct your information about Islam,
The Misunderstood Religion ..................... (lots of links, a great site!!)
http://sultan.org/
Muhammad in the Bible
What all Christians and Jews MUST know about the Bible
http://muhammad.net/biblelp/index.htm
http://muhammad.net
Islam answers back
http://www3.sympatico.ca/shabir.ally/toppage1.htm
and another great islamic site
http://islamonline.net
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TRY TO HAVE A LOOK FROM TIME TO TIME TO THESE LINKS
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Time is not a really reason for not reading! We can manage our time, even an hour in a week!!!
From my deep heart I hope you figure out the truth sometime.
I am writing this sentice and I heared just now the voice of the prayer in the mosque. I have to go for the prayer.
Good luck.
Ghada :roll: