Christian/Muslim ThreadsSacrificing sinless - Justice - Satan -Logic ????I don't know, wich religions do you have in mind? Hinduism? in wich way does their theology resemble judaism? you ever read their scriptures? according to Hinduism each person is God, and each person should be praised and worshipped equally as brahman himself... that's a main theology of Hinduism that each person is Allah himself. you believe that Sharon will take you past the underworld if your burried with two coins on your eyes? or do you think that Osiris will ressurect my rotten body in the cellestial heavens if i'm mummified? or that starving yourself to death is the noblest dead on earth (jainism)? ethic teachings are nothing to proof islam, even atheists today write humanistic ethics wich even i could agree with... what is essential to a prophet is that it reveals knowledge of THEOS from a world not known to us. either you seek theological agreeances and consider your prophet to be God revealing, or you seek ethical resemblances and is your prophet no more then a guru, a mere mortal teacher of morals wich bares no significance or difference to a modern day philosopher. as can it be turned around, and can the buddhists say that everyone is a buddhist, and that Muhammed wasn't a muslim, but a buddhist. That's what you get if you want to make Islam an interfaith religion, your prophet will be diminshed to the other religions as well. alltough islam keeps it's ignorant and superior attitude unto other religions. Out of fear to be seen as equals, how hypocrit. As do i not think that Islam respects other religions, especially when it so brutally attacks christianity, hinduism and the parsis by words and by force. Even Muhammed persecuted the Zoroastrisians (or the fire worshippers, again wrong theology from the allknowing Allah) then how can a muslim still agree with it's monotheism, when Muhammed didn't include them into the people of the book who will get salvation?. It's unprovable you know that as much as i, and it's on basis of that, that you should reject such speculation if you got nothing to show for it. Unless you want to insult your intelligence by sticking to a claim in wich you have nothing to convince me with. No it doesn't, interfaith groups only seek ethical, practical and moral agreeances, merely because the theologies, the revelations of God's nature all contradict one and other. Then how can they all be the same? corruptions? where then? we don't see any. On top of that, the scripture claiming to be the big cahuna who makes this accusation has more proveable scruntiny surrounding it's scripture then any other. yes, ethics, even Socrates, Confucius, Plato and Aristotles had them. You don't have to be a prophet to know what laws are good for not hurting men. Yet you have to be a prophet to what extent God's laws of goodness reach, that's the difference. you avoid my question, is Allah a failure or not? did he not know that the people were gonna distort them and wage wars over them? and is Allah not all knowning then? assuming that he is... then he is a sadist. Could allah made a quran at the very beginning wich was uncorruptable? assuming that Allah is omnipotent and can make illiterate people into prophets, he could have! then why did he choose wars and paganism (something wich he hates so much) in favor of Islam (the most glorious religion on earth?) Even parts of his family rejected him H20, If Islam were true, why was so much violence needed to establish it? Why did Muhammad teach that those who leave Islam are to be murdered? Why did Muhammad have to have slave girls killed for laughing at him? Why did Muhammad have to extort money from Christians and Jews when his people were so poor? Were was this "truth"? Or, as Muhammad believed, was "Allah" providing material wealth for the Muslims by taking it by force from others? [/quote] Muhammed did the killing of unbelievers all the time, there's alot of verses in the quran and hadith wich can confirm this... and since muhammed is your role model, surely you wouldn't be ashamed of his actions would you? on top of that, killing people who have critique on islam is a practiclly a day time job if living in muslim countries. As has it moved to the west in the last 15 years as well. (Salman Rushdie, Theo Van Gogh,...) not to mention the numerous writers who are being threatend daily or living in asylum for their opinions on islam. and that beating condition is not mentioned in that particular surah, any muslim in rage or frustration over his wife wouldn't even care to look up that 'condition' since the Quran is complete anyway. he just beats the crap out of her in order to get to heaven. the numbers of wife abuse in islam in the west (since here we take statistics of that, the muslim world doesn't) is out of control. There's a reason why i see ex-muslim women creating charities and asylums for abused muslim women here. and concerning that condition, i've seen pictures of Shia's (who as we all know are devoted hadith followers as well) who uphold those conditions, and beated the woman only in the buttock area merely because she was 2 minutes alone in a room with a man. Her butt was beaten black from the top to the back of her knees, and that was only one of many pictures of muslim abuse of women. All in the name of Allah. |
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