Christian/Muslim ThreadsSacrificing sinless - Justice - Satan -Logic ???? :: Re: Who is copying whoRe: Who is copying who I unlike you believe in the excistence of false prophets, you believe in missunderstood prophets. That's the great deception, your naieve and are willing to except every false prophet by nitpicking what you like out of their scriptures. Something satan would love, a combination of all it's false prophets and the rejection of christ. guess Islam got it all. Does the quran confirm this hadith? if it doesn't then we need to throw it into the garbage. Argument's gone. As is it speculation, unprovable and very much unlikely it's something you need to accept on blind faith. unless you have some historical back up to this, to proof that Islam was preached before muhammed invented it otherwise you have nothing, notta... But if you got evidence, please entertain me with that. basic teachings are the same? you mean that these prophets teach contradictionary stuff as well? You believe in a inconsistant God then? Why does the all knowning Allah, create religions in wich he knows that it will result into wars and disputes? when he is able to create an unchanging quran from the beginning? why all this mess first? Is Allah a sadist? I guess he is, first he tricks the apostles in believing christ died on the cross by putting a look a like on it. And then he condems the christians to hell for believing Allah's trick. Guess Allah really is a sadist. euhm, that's practiclly crap, prior to christianity the world was infested with pagan believes. The Romans, the Vikings, The Celts, The Inca's, The Hindu's, The Arab's (who were starting to convert to christianity as well), The Egyptians, etc... even the Persian Zoroastrians believed in a duality of Ahura Mazda and Ahura Mainyu being equals. The only monotheistic religion that shorltly excisted was the Armenian revolution by Pharaoh Akhenaton and Akhenaton opposed violence (he let his empire shrink deliberitly) and pagan practises. Muhammed used violence as a tool to create and expand an empire as did he include pagan customs into his religion totally opposite of what that pharoah teached. The Akhenaton revolution fell as fast as it came thou, other then that... It's christianity wich converted the pagan world into monotheism Later? Jesus was seen as God at the very beginning, everyone who came into close contact with Jesus converted immediatly and worshipped Him, yes! shirk! (immagine any sane man doing that on first contact with a person, it must of been that Jesus's diety was VERY convincing) Everyone who came in close contact with muhammed, opposed him and or ridiculed him... merely because Muhammed was a joke, he raided caravans, and preached old tales... had no miracles or prophecies, even the christians and the jews of that time ridiculed him. It's one thing for us christians not to be convinced now, but if the early christians didn't convert when they saw muhammed (who then would of been even better at representing Islam then an army of H20's). if he really was that obvious what he said he was, i'm sure they would of converted. Yet they saw Muhammed as just another heretic, and muhammed when in power, persecuted everyone who refused to believe in his self delussions of prophethood. Destroying everything and everyone that critizid his title untill all that was left was a self romantizing and fabricated quran. ethics like beating your wife if YOU FEEL like she's betraying you? or ethics like making it unproveable for a woman to show when she was raped? ethics like a woman having to share her love for a man with 3 other women? ethics like killing kaffirs who insult muhammed or allah to be killed? the source of ethics is in the holy spirit, truth as revealed by it, in the bible, not in a wannabe of the holy spirit. it's christian theology that speaks of the logos, a truth known to all men... it's again, copied revelation of the quran of something that wich was allready known. |
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