Christian/Muslim ThreadsChristianity is PaganI appreciate the fact that other sites have opinions on this matter. All which are false. And in the "prophecies not fulfilled (pt. 1)" topic, your arguments have already been refuted by webmaster, Believer, and myself. Visit that topic again, I have replied to it again. (If there was not so many topics to reply to, I would have noticed what you and Fatima posted and replied to it sooner). I wasn't trying to show that this chapter would prophecy the death of Christ. I posted it to show that eventhough you won't refer to Christ as the Son of God, but the Son of man, then that passage states that a "Son of man" will be served in an everlasting kingdom. I do not see Muhammed, i.e. "the greatest prophet?" being served. These sayings of yours have already been replied to and yet it is Christians who have to repeat themselves. We already went over the "Mighty God" discussion in the OT, and you did not prove that it does not mean Christ is God. So I offered you the challenge of reading the Bible in its context and you will find your answer--that Christ IS God in the flesh. As far as Jesus' death, your arguments have been refuted in the "prophecies not fulfilled (pt. 1)" topic. And the "pray in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit" passage has already been mentioned by Lady Fatima and refuted via Christians. There is nothing wrong with that passage seeing that the Biblical context shows the Father is God, Christ is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. Christ Himself said when baptism is to take place, baptize in the name of those three. Your argument was that a God dying on the cross does not make any sense. That was an argument not worthy of a reply seeing that there is no searching for God's understanding [Isaiah 40:28]. You say the Trinity is not God, yet you have no reply to the fact that the God who created the universe gives us examples of trinities that exist in creation. Then how much more can you prove the Trinity is not true? You can't. All you can do is bow the knee to the revelation which God has given us through His Word in the Holy Bible. Job questioned God on matters, and he ended up repenting. How much more will you have to do when you argue the nature of God, whom you are not to fully comprehend? When God sent Isaiah, He said to Isaiah, "Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. " (Isaiah 6:9). The reason some documents have been discarded by the Church was because they fail the test of canonicity. If we were to accept every manuscript (Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc.) as the Word of God, we wouldn't even know the truth seeing that there are many discrepencies between them. Therefore a test of canonicity is done. For example, a simple test is given in order to determine what NT manuscripts to include: First, the books must have apostolic authority-- that is, they must have been written either by the apostles themselves, who were eyewitnesses to what they wrote about, or by associates of the apostles. Second, there was the criterion of conformity to what was called the "rule of faith." In other words, was the document congruent with the basic Christian tradition that the church recognized as normative. Third, there was the criterion of whether a document had enjoyed continuous acceptance and usage by the church at large. --From: http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... rigin.html The reason certain manuscripts are not included are because they fail the test. Doesn't Islam have some kind of test to show which hadiths are true and which are false? So does Christianity in determining its doctrine. Mithraism not an influence on Christianity: http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_04_02_04_MMM.html |
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