Science, Creation & EvolutionCreation vs. Evolution, general discussionJM: Ok, then I'm sure you'll agree that the same applies to ID. ID has not been shown to be true and in fact, ID is not even present in modern scientific literature. What 'big names' are behind ID? I don't know of a single 'big name' scientist who is promoting ID. Can you name these 'big names' and why they are considered 'big'? Do you know there are far more scientists named Steve who find that evolution is compelling than there are scientists dabbling in ID? http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articl ... 6_2003.asp JM: Well then we disagree. I think a healthy discussion of religion can be a very good thing in public schools and certainly in private Christian/Jewish and Muslim schools as well. Religion is an important facet of our society and we do a great disservice to our students if we don't teach it. JM: I think the court is correct to mandate that no one particular religious viewpoint should be taught above all others and certainly not in a science classroom. JM: If, and when, ID presents some scientific evidence for its position then it will get the respect it deserves. ID'ists seem content to argue their case in the courts and in the courts of public opinion rather than putting their nose to the scientific grindstone. ID is a socio-political construct and nothing more. Show me the science behind it! How do we test for the presence of an intelligent designer? In your opinion, is the entire Universe designed? JM: Recent work has hypothesized that c may have varied briefly shortly after the Big Bang, but certainly not enough to make a 4.5 billion year old earth only 6000 years. What you seem confused about is the difference between the relativistic effects of travel at c and a varying c. Relativistic effects remain the same if c was 2x faster, 5x faster or 100x faster. JM: All mass arose from the Big Bang. To get a true appreciation of that number (and why the Big Bang is an appropos name) just imagine the amount of energy needed to create the mass of the earth! JM: What have you read about evolution? What specific faults did you find in say "The Structure of Evolutionary Theory" by Gould? Can you honestly say that your rejection of evolution is based solely on its scientific content and not on religious grounds? JM: Yes, I know there are some who insist on the inerrancy of the bible. To them I ask "Which Bible"? The original manuscripts do not exist. Specific books in different bibles were voted into or out of the current manuscripts. It seems to me that biblical inerrancy is more unprovable than is science. JM: I do all that! As a youth I worked with my parents in the barrios of Bogota, Colombia. As a teacher, I teach young people about the wonders of science and try to inspire them to reach their goals. I volunteer for Habitat, have worked in soup kitchens etc etc and I agree with you that these are very important tasks. It is also very important to make sure that our children learn the very best that science has to offer and to keep pseudoscience from creeping in under the guise of ID or young earth creationism. We all do what we can and devote our time and energies where needed. Cheers Joe Meert |
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