Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe Oneness of God The Islamic view vs. Christian view :: Re: The Oneness of God The Islamic view vs. Christian viewAlso the Koran provides an analogy to the Trinity: Trinity, Analogy, From Koran: Analogy from the Koran: Light 24:35, Shakir "Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not -- light upon light -- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things." So here we have a lamp as an analogy of God to explain His Light. So the lamp in glass is the analogy of God. This lamp emits light that make us see the lamp and recognise its existence. This light is emitted from the lamp by the burning of the oil imbibed by the thread within the lamp ie the light is emitted by the burning thread through the oil, which if we come near enough will feel its heat. Muslims read this analogy and only see the lamp: Absolute Monotheism. Christians read this analogy and see: The Monotheistic Trinity: 1. The lamp, signifying or is analogy of God The Father. 2. The light emitted which is the manifestation of the presence of the lamp: God The Son, The Word, The Light, The Logos. 3. The fire fed by the oil in the thread that by its burning and fire leads or proceeds to emit The Light, the fire an analogy to The Holy Spirit. Thus the lamp is constituted of the glass lamp, the oil that burns, giving the light. Lamp= the glass lamp + fire (oil) + light. Three in one and one in three, Monotheistic Trinity. Hence Christians are nearer to God, can feel the warmth of God, can experience the Love of God. Whereas Muslims are afraid of God, the God that looks all the time for revenge and want to kill and destroy! However, this analogy of God as a lamp is yet another deficiency of Koran: What happens when the oil in the lamp ends? Naturally, the light is extinguished, goes, gone!!! In the example in the Koran: When the oil and light ends, what becomes of Allah? This is a very bad example to try to make Allah understood by humans by giving this analogy of the lamp!!! Big question: Would God like to be resembled as a lamp? What answer does Allah have about the lamp running out of oil? Contrast this by the example of God in the New Testament: The Sun A Muslim may say: but the Sun has an end! Yes, but by then it will be the end of every thing! And after how many millions of years, and not just few hours as in the case of the lamp! What do you think is a better analogy for God: Lamp or Sun Of course somebody may say: The analogy of God in the Bible is the Sun The anaolgy of Allah in the Koran is a lamp This shows the difference between God and Allah: Sun's light is for ever, lamp oil lasts for hours!!! Koran: created or not, implications on concept of Trinity in Islam: 'Created' vs. 'uncreated' Qur'an The most widespread varieties of Muslim theology consider the Qur'an to be eternal and 'uncreated'. Such an approach echoes Greek philosophy, especially Plato's theories that all ultimate realities and truths had to be eternal and unchanging. Given that Muslims believe that Biblical figures such as Moses and Jesus all preached Islam, the doctrine of an unchanging, uncreated revelation implies that contradictions between their statements according to the Qur'an and the Bible must be the result of human corruption of the earlier divine revelations. However, some, notably including the Mu'tazili and Ismaili sects, dispute this doctrine of the uncreated Qur'an. Various liberal movements within Islam implicitly or explicitly question the doctrine of the uncreated Qur'an when they question the continuing applicability and validity of Islamic law, as their justifications for doing so are often based on a belief that such laws were created by God to meet the particular needs and circumstances of Muhammad's community. Among the many reasons the dissenting voices have offered for their critique of the doctrine of an eternal Qur'an has been its implications to the doctrine of tawhid, or unity of God. Holding that the Qur'an is the eternal uncreated speech of Allah, speech that has always existed alongside Him, seemed to some thinkers to be a step in the direction of a more plural concept of God's nature. Concerned that this interpretation appeared to echo the Christian conception of God's eternal Word or logos, some Muslim philosophers and theologians rejected the notion of the Qur'an's eternality. |
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