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LuckyStrike: Matthew 7:1-3 is talking about avoiding unrighteous judgment, not the prohibition of judging completely.
While you definition of Matthew 7:1-3 was detailed, it missed to point totally.
The meaning Jesus gave with verses 1-3, was that the Lord doesn't want sinners judging other sinnners.
We are all sinners; you, me, and everyone else. If you say you are not, then you are lying also. The Lord wants us judge our own sins first, then repent them, before we judge another's sins.
LuckyStrike: Let us put this quote back into context.
Or do you mean distort it by your comprehension of the verse?
The teachings of Jesus are the same in this verse, as the above verses of Matthew. There are those in the world that arrogantly believe that they are righteous, and have the right to impose judgement on the sinful according to the law.
NIV Luke 15:7 I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.
NIV Luke 18:9-14 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' 13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' 14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
Yet, as I said before; the Lord gives no right for the sinful to judge the sinful. We are all sinners.
Luckystrike: Therefore, John 8:7 does not refer to a generalistic command to not judge anybody, but instead an issue related to the workings of Mosaic Law.
Wrong. It actually refers to the self proclaimed righteous followers and imposers of the law, passing and imposing judgements upon those who do not follow the law. It comes down to the same thing: Sinners judging sinners.
Luckystrike: In short, the point here is that we must judge by the standards that God sets us to judge by. For instance, Paul instructs us to compare what people teach with proper doctrine (Romans 16:17, ref. 2 John 1:9-11). In addition, John instructs us to test spirits by seeing which one recognizes that Jesus is the Messiah (Christos, Strong's #5547), or God (ref. Micah 5:2), in the flesh (1 John 4:1-3). The list could go on, but I believe the point is made.
Excuse me. You listed srtong's definition of Judge. No where in the definition are the word's "compare" or "test". If you shall get technical with definitions, then do so completely; not contradictave.
Merriam-Webster
Test:
1 a chiefly British : CUPEL b (1) : a critical examination, observation, or evaluation : TRIAL; specifically : the procedure of submitting a statement to such conditions or operations as will lead to its proof or disproof or to its acceptance or rejection <a test of a statistical hypothesis> (2) : a basis for evaluation : CRITERION c : an ordeal or oath required as proof of conformity with a set of beliefs
2 a : a means of testing: as (1) : a procedure, reaction, or reagent used to identify or characterize a substance or constituent (2) : something (as a series of questions or exercises) for measuring the skill, knowledge, intelligence, capacities, or aptitudes of an individual or group b : a positive result in such a test
3 : a result or value determined by testing
Compare:
1 : to represent as similar : LIKEN <shall I compare thee to a summer's day? -- Shakespeare>
2 a : to examine the character or qualities of especially in order to discover resemblances or differences <compare your responses with the answers> b : to view in relation to <tall compared to me>
3 : to inflect or modify (an adjective or adverb) according to the degrees of comparison
LuckyStrike:No, you are trying to create a superficial line between these two groups. Anyone can become a false prophet, therefore both groups must be watched in the appropriate manner.
The "superficial line" has only been created in your distorted view.
LuckyStrike: Anyone can become a false prophet, therefore both groups must be watched in the appropriate manner.
Again, I dont see "watched" in you strongs definition of "Judge".
Merriam-Webster
Watch:
1 a : to keep vigil as a devotional exercise b : to be awake during the night
2 a : to be attentive or vigilant b : to keep guard
3 a : to keep someone or something under close observation b : to observe as a spectator <the country watched as stocks fell sharply>
4 : to be expectant : WAIT <watch for the signal>
John 5:22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son
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all:
1 a : the whole amount or quantity of <needed all the courage they had> <sat up all night> b : as much as possible <spoke in all seriousness>
2 : every member or individual component of <all men will go> <all five children were present>
3 : the whole number or sum of <all the angles of a triangle are equal to two right angles>
4 : EVERY <all manner of hardship>
5 : any whatever <beyond all doubt>
6 : nothing but : ONLY: a : completely taken up with, given to, or absorbed by <became all attention> b : having or seeming to have (some physical feature) in conspicuous excess or prominence <all legs> c : paying full attention with <all ears>
7 dialect : used up : entirely consumed -- used especially of food and drink
8 : being more than one person or thing <who all is coming>
synonym see WHOLE
- all the : as much of... as : as much of a... as <all the home I ever had>
He is Lord
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