Aineo wrote:kingzson wrote:Please stick with scripture to refute the post..........refute if you can my points made in the post with scripture.
Fine, as long as you stick to Scripture instead of wrangling over words.
Isaiah 45:21
21 "Declare and set forth your case;
Indeed, let them consult together.
Who has announced this from of old?
Who has long since declared it?
Is it not I, the LORD?
And there is no other God besides Me,
A righteous God and a Savior;
There is none except Me.
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Titus 1:1-4
1:1 Paul, a bond-servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge of the truth which is according to godliness, 2 in the hope of eternal life, which God, who cannot lie, promised long ages ago, 3 but at the proper time manifested, even His word, in the proclamation with which I was entrusted according to the commandment of God our Savior; 4 to Titus, my true child in a common faith: Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior. NAS
2 Peter 1:1
1:1 Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:
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So who is our Savior, God or Jesus the Messiah?
Romans 2:14-16
14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness, and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, 16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus. NAS
2 Timothy 4:1-2
4:1 I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.
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Who is going to judge mankind, God or Jesus the Messiah?
Now if you want to debate semantics you also have to debate how a word is used; by that I mean is the word a noun, verb, pronoun, adverb, conjunction, and etc. bearing in mind that a word can be a noun, a verb, or a adjective based on how the word is used in a sentence. You also need to debate the type of conjunction used in each sentence. “And” is a co-ordinating conjunction and can be used to join two objects together (bread and butter) or 2 adjectives used to describe the same object or person (judge and savior).