Fornication And Adultery is a Sin!Masturbating - Is masturbating a sin? :: No word referances.No word referances. I have to agree with this, but it is not complete. your coveting can be more then lusting after someone. Where does it say he was killed for both? where does it say he missused sex?
"I think" is the problem. you should know because you have tested against the word and it has stood the test of Scripture. if you are wanting to know if it is wrong then look to the word. if you can make your situation line up thenait is OK. But if you cannot get it to the stright edge of Gods word then kick it to the curb. Therefore, since Masturbation is not condemned in the word as a sexual sin and God being who he is and things being as they are He knew we would be discussing this very issue, as it has been discussed many times on and in many types of forums, even open forums face to face. Therefore it does line up with the word as not being a sin. If you can show otherwise then it is your duty to en-lighten the rest of the world
My spouse has said if I want a girlfriend (concubine) for the purpose of sex only it is OK with her. so by your reasoning that would not be sin. what Bible did you get your information from that a spouse can release their mate from the act of sin by giving them permission to act in any manner. God did not ordain driving cars. God did not ordain using natural gas to cook with. What scripture do you get this soul cheaping from? I have never heard of this doctrine before, soul cheaping. You have used the word fornicate and attached it to masturbate as if it came from the word of God like that. Go to the book and show the scriptures that do connect the two together. I beleive that there is not one person on this forum that has even one scripture that backs their claim of Masturbation being sin and yet will proclaim from the roof tops that it is sin with no Bible verse in their heart to support their views. what a shame to spout off about right and wrong without any Godliness within their mouth for support. Go to the Book and prove your stance. Without the word of God to support you you are building your own beleif system for sin and rightousness. There is no Holiness in your words if there is no "word" in your words. You are trying to be teachers of the Law without understanding of the law. How can you give your opinion without using the word of God to support you. you are building on sand and that foundation will not last. only one solid foundation is going to last and that is to build your life and beleifs upon the word of God and His Christ. this can only be done by using the word of God as the final say so. Not one of you have done this as of yet. you go to that verse where God killed Onen or onan how ever it is spelled and build a doctrine of sexual purity from it, when you should be building a doctrine of obedeince instead. He sinned and was killed because he refused to build his brothers house, so that his brothers name would not vanish from the face of the earth. That is why God killed him, not for spilling his seed by pulling out before the act was complete. Many verses give very clear detail of what sexual sin's are, and never once did the act of masturbation come up. WHY? Did God fail to recognize a sin and it slipped his Mind? therefore we today are trying to know the mind of God when in fact God has failed us by not listing it as one of the sexual sins. I know that my God is not absent minded and if He knew it was a sin he would have had it written in His word as clear as the ringing of the church bells at 9AM on sunday morning. that is the Lord God, the one who does not hide secert messages in his word and watch us fight all our life to figure them out. it is in the word plain and simple what is sin and that is that, if you cannot disclose the were abouts of the verses you should not open your mouth at all. nor should you try to be a teacher of the LAW that you do not even know. I was raised in the United Pentelcostal Church and they are one of the worse teachers of Holiness that there is on this planet. they like most of you try to apply your sacred opinion as Godliness and Holiness and you cannot even show one place in the Holy Scriptures to back your claims. That is the kind of preachers this world needs less of. These types of preachers should step down and go to school and learn that ONLY GODS WORD will stand tha test of endurance Never will the opinion of man be of any value for deciding what is right and wrong. Look, I said when I joined this forum, The word of God is the only source for truth and His Holy Spirit will not contridict his word and the Holy Spirit will lead us and teach us about Jesus and what is sin and what is not. Find your life in Christ by using His word as the only source of defining sin and rightousness. If you cannot rely on the word of God alone as your source of information to build the doctrines that will govern your life then you need to be checking to see if you are in the faith at all. examine yourself to see if you pass the test. To add to Gods word in and of it's self is a sin. Keep your personal opinions to yourself and proclaim Gods word alone. So are there any takers out there who will take up the challenge of teaching from the word if Masturbation is a sin like it was asked at the beginning of this thread. and is still being asked. |
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