beads wrote:zampeada wrote:the same new old argument... SECOND COUSIN... SECOND COUSIN... doesn't SECOND COUSIN mean brothers too?
didn't we all know that BRETHEN is a blood brother?
Muhammad shares the same bloodline as Jesus and Moses from their forefathers, Abraham.
Interesting that you would only address this one point out of what Believer said. Why is it that you chose to ignore the rest of what both Alpha and Believer said? Tell you what, I'll copy and paste them again so you can have the chance to actually read them and respond.
- Alpha
Point 1 - It's funny because the New Testament claims that Christ fulfilled this prophecy (Acts 3:22,23; John 1:45). The New Testament goes to the direct Old Testament prophecy to describe its fulfillment. But the Qu’ran does not do this. If Mohammed fulfilled this prophecy, why doesn’t the Qu’ran refer specifically to it? I’ll tell you why. Because this prophecy is not about Mohammed.
Point 2 - the tribes of Israel were brethren among each other, and Christ came out of the tribe of Judah. In Deuteronomy 3:18; 15:7; 17:15; 24:14 the tribes of Israel are mentioned as "brethren" among each other.
Believer
But it makes the most sense that "brethren" means a future race of Jews, since Deut 18 is a prophecy for a future event.
The Jews of the 1st century AD are the brethren of the Jews of Moses's time.
..... unless you just don't have a response, which is probably why you didn't address them in the first place.
To be honest... No matter how many times I asked this same question... I never got the answer 'yes' or 'no'... If they say 'yes', it discredit they argument... Can you see the point? And they cannot say 'no' too...
What I got was, Muhammad was the second cousin... Didn't that indirectly say 'yes'... Second cousin means that Muhammad was among the Brethen.
Then we could go on with who his the mostly likely or unlikely to Moses.
The funny thing was, they list based on numbers. Moses lead 12 tribes and Jesus had 12 apostles? The number yes. Tribes and apostles? I'd be lying if I say that was the same.