ArchivedJesus got crucified so all Christains are goin to Heaven?Jameel, logic is not the answer to such a question, its something you have to understand with your heart. I already implicitly answered this question in my first reply, and the problem is not a matter of logic, but as i said, comprehensibility and understanding. God is All-Holy, God is the Just Judge, God is also compassionate and merciful. How do these 3 attributes compromise. Well first since God is All-Holy, all sin no matter how minor or of what nature (as i explained before) is an offense, and insult, rebellion to the All-Holy who handed down the Holy commandments (refelcting His own holiness) commanding us against all sin. Secondly God is the Just judge, His justice entails that we do not get away with sin, but justice must prevail and a punishment must be paid. Finally God is merciful and compassionate, both these attributes were excercised when God offered us a way of forgiveness, when out of His incomprehensible and perfect love, he decided that HE would bear the punishment that WE deserve and that is due to US. i.e. He compromised his attributes of perfect Love, Justice, and Holiness, without letting them contradict or conflict with each other. What love is greater than this? To further dig this idea into you, think of a King lending money to his servants. This King is Just, and he is bound by certain regulations that ensure His justice, and those regulations entail that one must die, if they are in debt to the King. Lets say one of these servants failed to payback the King and was in debt to this King. Now this King could simply let the servant off - but in such a case his Mercy would be overriding his Justice - this cannot be, he must COMPROMISE between the two. So to excercise both PERFECT justice and PERFECT love, the penalty for the debt must go ahead, but the King decides that because of his great love for this servant, he will step down from his throne, and bear this penalty Himself for the sake of his beloved servant. This is the GREAT and PERFECT Love of our Lord, who COMPROMISED his LOVE, MERCY, and JUSTICE, without letting one overide the other. Well i already answered this Jameel in the most logical way. You have obviously either just missed what i said or didnt really understand it, and thats fine, i just hope that if you are honest to yourself you read it just a couple more times to see if it makes more sense to you. What i am going to do, is try and show you this logic mathematically, after you read that, i will paste the relevent parts of my first post after it, and i hope it starts to make sense at that point. Ok lets make a scale. Lets say 0 (zero) represents the perfect average, i.e. if you maintained all of Gods laws perfectly you remain on 0. Therefore at 0 (zero) the scale is balanced perfectly, because you are fulfilling all Gods recquirements. Now lets say you go out to the street, you have opportunity to steal and you dont steal. You have done as God recuired and commanded therefore you dont lose any points, and obviously you dont gain anything either because youve simply maintained Gods recquirements. The next day you walk out, you cant resist the temptation, and you steal this time - you have fallen short of Gods standards, and therefore you cant maintain the 0, so lets say you score -5 (negative 5) points (you are below what God has recquired and commanded of you), now so far out of 2 circumstances, you have a total score of -5. What is your average? -5 divided by 2 = -2.5. In order to "balance" everything back again, the next chance you get, you need to score a +5 i.e. so that out of three ocassions your score is balanced back to 0 therefore you're back to the balanced average of 0 - Gods recquirements. The fact of the matter is you can never score a +5 to make up for you're previous negativity, because +5 would be superseding Gods recquirements. And there is nothing you can do to supersede 0 - Gods commandments. When you go to help the poor, when you help the sick, or feed the hungry, you are scoring 0 points each time, you're not doing anything special because these are things God has commanded of and expects of us. I dont want to put too much emphasis of this above mathematical idea, but i only want you to read it, so you can now make more sense of the following paragraph: "The vast majority of good works are not good in the same way that sins are bad (good works are simply maintaining what God expects - bad works are allowing us to fall below), and thus cannot--even in principle--cancel out any bad works. Whenever we sin, we violate the commands that God has given us; we fall short of His standards. In principle, therefore, if you wanted to pay for your violations, you would have to balance them out by EXCEEDING God's standards in other areas. Most of what we call good works, however, do not exceed God's standards, but are simply a matter of doing what commands." Faruq al-Dhimmi "Another reason that our own good works cannot save us is that even the smallest sin is serious beyond reckoning. The seriousness of a sin is determined not only by the command that has been broken, but by the One Who gave the command." Faruq al-Dhimmi I hope ive made that clear by now. Even in the Old Testemant, the Jews had to atone for their sins by the blood of an unblemished passover lamb. Such a feast was a symbolic pointer to our Lord Jesus Christ, who became the unblemished passover lamb for mankind. No one can be justified by good works, because theyre only "good" in the sense that they reflect what God expects of us, but they are nothing extraordinary. Yes agreed. This "test" and inevtitable struggle to perform Gods will is the validation of the ticket to heaven on the last day. But our Good works and deeds are but filthy rags to God as spoken by Isaiah the prophet. Only the blood of Christ was precious enough to purchase this ticket for mankind, and offered to everyone, it is up to us to accept this ticket and it is up to us to maintain its validity. |
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