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I have Show you that the prayers of the SAINTS rise up to God like burning incence. (Rev8:3-4) "Then another angel, having a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God from the angel’s hand." I think this is very clear, but seeming as you dont obviously read my posts I will explain yet again. The twenty-four elders represent the hierarchy of the people of God in heaven (just as the four living creatures represent the hierarchy of the angels of God in heaven), and here they are shown presenting our prayers to God under the symbol of incense (which is, in fact, what incense symbolizes in church, since it is a pleasing smell which rises upward). One might object, saying, "But maybe those weren't prayers to the saints but prayers to God!" This may well be true. However, a person who says this only digs the hole deeper for himself since this would mean that those in heaven are aware of prayers which weren't even directed to them! Clear enough for you? there are other places in the Bible that state the same thing Just not enough time to post and explain them. And the bible says we can pray FOR the dead like Paul did for his friend Onesiphours, so im sure they can pray for us, as stated in Revelation above. Again put your Biblical posts in Context. 1 Timothy 2: 1 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way. 3 This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Does it say all men alive? NO it says ALL MEN, meaning, alive or dead. Christ IS the One mediator between God and man, but then why does it say Intercede for each other? Because;Mediator defined A mediator is one who brings estranged parties to an amicable agreement. In New Testament theology the term invariably implies that the estranged beings are God and man, and it is appropriated to Christ, the One Mediator. When special friends of God -- angels, saints, holy men -- plead our cause before God, they mediate "with Christ"; their mediation is only secondary and is better called intercession (q.v.). Moses, howover, is the proper mediator of the Old Testament (Gal, iii, 19-20). And Saints, saints Are Holy People. What kind of a question was that?Catholic saints are holy people and human people who lived extraordinary lives. Each saint the Church honors responded to God's invitation to use his or her unique gifts. God calls each one of us to be a saint I hope this has finally answered your Questions, even though I have answered them in previous posts. Now my Question, where does it say you CANT pray(make a humble request) to Saints? "Oh my Jesus I love you to the point of madness" St Foustina |
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