RomeSweetHome wrote:Aieno Wrote

Quote me on Scripture that establishes the immaculate conception, the assumption, purgatory (the parable you cited does not establish purgatory, and a verse that states without equivocation that priest cannot marry.)

They have both biblical basis and tradition. The reason I ask you to quote me from Scripture is that you dont believe in tradition therefore Scripture must be complete, and you have no reason to not be able to show me.

I could show you tradition and biblical refrences that flow beautifully together, but you dont believe in tradition so there wouldnt be a point, but sence I too believe in Scripture you can quote it as many times as you wish!

My friend Scripture doesnt say Jesus is God yet we know he is, Scripture shows us in parables that Purgatory exists. By the way Scripture says being homosexual is wrong full stop, therefore gay unions and marriages are automatically wrong and sinful.

Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination."

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them."

1 Corinthians 6:9 "Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (homosexuals) :10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Its very Clear. The Scriptures that you give to support your theory that Purgatory doesnt exist, dont bring me to the conclusion that prugatory automatically doesnt exist.

However, ever Scripture you bring up to support the concept of purgatory can be shown to be "interpretations" not supported by the balance of Scripture. You appealed to David and God's discipline in this life. You appealed to a parable about "debts" and I quoted a Scripture that states all our "debts" are cancelled. So purgtory as a viable concept is not supported Biblically.

James 5:20 "Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins"

James 5:20 Talks specifically of covering a multitude of sins. Now if Christ purged away all our sins in the Protestant concept, then this passage is superfluous, it makes no sense.

Think!

In this life not the next, take you own advise and think outside the Gnostic box that much of RCC dogma is based on.

The Bible does say Jesus is God.

John 1:1-5
1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
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John 1:14-18
14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John bore witness of Him, and cried out, saying, "This was He of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.'" 16 For of His fulness we have all received, and grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. 18 No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him. NAS