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I want to know what Jesus said ? Mt 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? Mt 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments Jesus never said anything about dying for our sins Deuteronomy 24:16 "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.." How come you say that Jesus died of our sins and that every person is sinful and it is written in the bible: "Dear children do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous. Just as he is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of devil are: ANYONE WHO DOES NOT DO WHAT IS RIGHT IS NOT A CHILD OF GOD nor is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John(3:7-10) It is clear that it is meant that Jesus came to destroy evil by showing the people the right way to God, and not by sacrificing himself. Also, the verse stresses that if you do right then you are a child of God i.e. righteous person, else you are a devilish person. I think this interpretation is very fair and it does not contain any personal judgment from my side… "How great is the love of the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God…….Everyone who sins BREAKS THE LAW; in fact sin is lawlessness. But you know that he APPEARED so that he might take away our sins (please not that the verse said APPEARED not DIED, which means that he came to help us go more towards God) . And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning.(meaning those who live their lives after his example)." 1 John (3:1-6) look what Jesus sadi himself, Jesus did not preach that sins will be taken away by his sacrifice, he only prayed like this: Luke 11:4. "And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us." If sins were going to be taken by his sacrifice why did he pray like this? Sins they go away if God forgive us, not by a sacrifice. The sign of Jonah: if Jesus says that the ONLY sign is that of Jonah, then how do you explain that it did not come to pass? Jesus did not stay three days and three nights in the tomb (according to the bible). You can count them yourself man... Jesus can not be God, according to the bible: "God, the blessed and only ruler, the king of the kings and lord of the lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom NO ONE HAS SEEN OR CAN SEE. To him be honour and might for ever. Amen" (1 timothy 6:15-16). Indeed people saw the glory of God in Jesus (not God incarnate), through the miracles he did, but this verse proves that Jesus was not God, otherwise Paul could have said that he is. Strangely enough, the old testament says that many people saw God FACE TO FACE, contradicting what Paul said in the above verse. Please look at (Exodus 33:11), (Exodus 24:10), (Genesis 32:30). Another interesting verse is Acts 2:22 in which Peter said: "Jesus of Nazareth was A MAN accredited by God (i.e. appointed and chosen) to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him as yourselves know" that is God showed his miracles through Jesus, and this does not mean that Jesus was God, but MAN CHOSEN BY GOD. Most of the verses in which Paul said that Jesus is divine (not even explicitly) were those he sent to the non-Jews who did’t know anything about God anyway. Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?", Did not Jesus describe himself as the son of man tens of times? Even if he was described as Son of God, he personally refered to himslef as son of man. Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior." Isaiah 46:9 "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me," (even Jesus because he said that the Father is greater than he is i.e. not like him) Deuteronomy 4:35 "the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him," The word LORD here is YAHWA in hebrew which is like Allah in arabic. It is not Father, Son or Holy Ghost. Deuteronomy 32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me," 1 Kings 8:60 "That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else," 96 % of the bible is totally fallaciousness! Chrisitan Women do not follow their "word of God" 1Corinthians 14:33-35 "As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the church. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says (the law which is not important if you are christian??). if they want to enquire about something, they should ask their husbands at home; FOR IT IS DISGRACFUL FOR A WOMAN TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH". The verse says that women should not speak in church, … and that if they have a question then they have to ask their husband at home (what if they were not married?). 1Corinthians 11:5- "..every woman who prays or prophesises with ther uncovered dishonours her head- it is as just her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved off, she should cover her head" So every Christian woman is not following her own "God's word" when she walks around with her head uncovered. Some Christians argue that only in church do woman need to put something on their heads, but man!! the Christian missionary will tell you that Christians unlike Muslims pray and worship at anytime!! So why dont they put something on their heads all the time then!! I hope that this proves to you that Christianity is the laws of men not of God. No wonder no Christian follows the law of his own book, because deep inside they know it is not from God, but only the words of satan Here is a simple argument that shows how Christians dont think of what they believe in. If Hitler , after killing 6million jews said that he repented and that he is receiving divine revelation from God, would you believe him? Even more, if he says that the God of jews is sending him revelation, would the jews add what he said to their Torah? Ofcourse not!! this is the most ridiculous thing that can happen!! How come then that Christians accepted what Paul said even that he prosecuted Christians before? He killed many of them and then he said that he is getting visions from Jesus.. Does this make him a truthful person? Concerning the way he died, it was also predicted in the Bible, the Bible says that people who prophecies something wrong are going to be punished in that way. If I give you a cheque with only my first name on it, would you accept it? Can you obtain a passport with only your first name? How come Christians believe in 4 Gospels written by people you dont know who they are? Where are the Gospels of the 11 disciples? Why do Christians follow Paul rather than the disciples? The supposed comforter of truth came only to the disciples and did not come to Paul. Dod he know all the truth then?[/size] |
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