ArchivedId like to ask a question to muslims...You are welcome Oh I can't wait to hear the resurrection story from the Quran!!! What are you even saying? Are you saying that Jesus is dead or NOT? There is no massage mentioned. How do you conclude anointing is massaging? Bodies are being cleaned and anointed with parfume because they start decomposing. You didn't respond to my question, are you familiar with the Jewish burial customs? Are you reading what I wrote? Joseph of Arimathaea was a disciple convinced that Jesus would be raised from the dead. He was rich. He was a member of the council that ruled and tried Jesus. However, he did not consent to the counsel or deed and kept hidden to claim the body of Jesus. He boldly went into Pilate to beg the body of Jesus. In entering a Gentile court and in touching a dead body he defiled himself so that he was not able to eat the Passover. He had a new tomb hewed from rock near the crucifixion area. He bought some linen "sindon" and simply rolled up the body of Jesus and put it in the tomb. Sindon is not grave clothing. He did not anoint the body. (He was supposed to do it according to Jewish Burial Customs, Jesus never got a PROPER BURIAL due to time constraints) The women who watched him from a distance went to prepare a proper burial and came back a few days later after the Passover and weekly sabbaths. It is clear from the records that Joseph believed that Jesus would be raised in three days as he had taught. He boldly claimed the body and had prepared a place to put it. He did not prepare it for burial because he did not believe that Jesus was going to stay dead. The women and Nicodemus had noted that Joseph had not anointed Jesus for burial nor wound his body in anointed strips of grave clothing. Under Jewish burial customs the body is first washed; then it is anointed with aromatic spices and perfumes. That is why on Easter Sunday the women went to Jesus' tomb with spices and perfumes they had prepared; it was their intention to anoint Jesus' body and give it a fitting and proper burial (cf Lk 23:56; 24:1). There is no MASSAGING. Are you writing the history again to make your point? Nicodemus came back with his own servants after Joseph and the women had left and prepared the body for burial. When Jesus was raised, the grave clothing [othonion] was found but the original sindon that Joseph used is not around. Although Nicodemus was also a follower of Jesus and risked defiling himself for the Passover by handling a dead body, he did not believe that Jesus would be raised in three days as did Joseph. The women who watched Joseph also came back on the first day of the week to anoint the body believing that Jesus was dead to stay and were surprised to find the body gone and Jesus raised from the dead. And there came also Nicodemus which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight. Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen [othonion] clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury. Now in the place where he was crucified there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid. There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews; preparation day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand. John 19:39-42 I don't even know what you are talking about, you don't make sense! And as it is appointed unto men once to die;-- Not a moral, or what is commonly called a spiritual death, nor an eternal one, but a corporeal one; which does not arise from the constitution of nature, but from the sin of man, and God's decree on account of it; by which it is fixed that men shall die, and how long they shall live, and when they shall die; so that they cannot die sooner nor later; all things antecedent to death, which lead on to it, and issue in it, are appointed by God, and so is death itself, with all its circumstances; men's days can neither be lengthened nor shortened, either by Christ himself, or others: and this statute and appointment of God concerns men, not angels, and reaches to all men, wicked and righteous; and though there have been some exceptions, as Enoch and Elijah; and all will not sleep, or die, some will be found alive at Christ's appearing; yet such will undergo a change which is equivalent to death, as Enoch and Elijah have done: and generally speaking men die but once; it is not usual for men to die, and live again, and then die again; there have been some extraordinary instances of this kind, but they are rare; it is the statute law of heaven in common for men to die and that but once; so Cicero the Heathen says, "omnibus definitam esse mortem": Christ died once, he will die no more; and it is the comfort of the saints, that though they die the first death, they shall not be hurt of the second death; and the consideration of this decree should excite to diligence and industry: death is certain to God, but uncertain to us, as to the time, nor should we curiously inquire into it, but patiently wait for it, and quietly submit unto it: but after this the judgment;-- the last and general judgment, which will reach to all men, quick and dead, righteous and wicked, and in which Christ will be Judge. There is a particular judgment which is immediately after death; by virtue of which, the souls of men are condemned to their proper state of happiness or woe; and there is an universal judgment, which will be after the resurrection of the dead, and is called eternal judgment, and to come; this is appointed by God, though the time when is unknown to men; yet nothing is more certain, and it will be a righteous one. Cheap shot but let's see ... He is not concealing his identity, we don't know if Mary is looking at that direction, Supposing Him to be the gardener, she said to Him, Sir, if you have carried Him away from here, tell me where you have laid Him and I will take Him away. Jesus said to her, Mary! She turned herself and said to Him, Rabboni! (which is to say, Master!) Though Jesus was a human being we do not know what His physical appearance was like. There are no direct descriptions of Jesus in the Scripture. The Bible is more concerned about who He was as a Person than His outer appearance. However we can infer that He was not extraordinary in His looks. He had to be picked out of a crowd of ten other men when He was betrayed. Remember the two disciples on the Emmaus Road were supernaturally kept from recognizing Him there is nothing in general appearance that made Him stand out from others. So? Sorry Jesus doesn't have an islamic mind, He died once and resurrected once. Deedat's swoon theory you are trying to defend doesn't make sense and you can't explain it away, when historical accounts recorded it, he was ALSO PIERCED on the side, WAS VERY MUCH SO DEAD! Sorry I am not a muslim, therefore I don't dig traps. Have you bothered to read the explanation I have given to you as to why Mary could NOT touch Him? Why do you keep asking why? Let me explain it to you the way you can understand; Christ, who is risen, is not to be sought in this world according to the flesh, but in heaven by faith where he has gone before us. That is what He meant saying touch me not. Jesus was on the cross for 6 hours, not 3. Son Of Man died, and Son Of Man resurrected, just like He ate, slept, got tired during his life, He did the same after his resurrection. He was 100% God, 100% man, this didn't change as only 100% God after he resurrected... Translation: I am RISEN! |
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