The Only Love – Gita-Bible Comparision

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 New Member

    The Only Love – Gita-Bible Comparision

    Luke—14:26 to 27

    “If any one comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple’’.

    The knowledge is compared to a sword. Bhagavatgita says “Chhitva Jnanasinatmanah”. This means that the ignorance should be cut by the knowledge, which is like a sword. The bonds with wife or husband and children are due to ignorance. Such bonds should break when the Lord in human form competes with them to conduct His test. Lord comes in human form in every human generation to preach and give His direct presence. If the Lord comes in only one human generation, God becomes partial to that human generation because other human generations are not blessed with such opportunity. To see, to touch, to talk and to live with the human incarnation, He comes down as per the prayers of the devotees. The Lord comes to preach and so He will not enter the statues or animals or birds. Veda says “Na tasya pratima asti’’ which means that God will not enter the inert statues.

    Gita says “Manusheem tanu masritam” which means that God enters the human body only because the main purpose is to preach the human beings. Gita strongly says that he who worships the inert statues will be born as an inert stone (“Bhootani yanti”). The Christians should be commended on this point who are worshipping the Holy Jesus only, who is the most powerful human incarnation of God. Veda says “Na tat samah” which means that nobody and nothing should be equal to the Lord in human incarnation. One should leave everything and everybody for the sake of the Lord in human form. Only the bond with a new human being can break the bond with the human beings. Such new human being must be very powerful who can be only God in human form.

    A new bond existing with formless God or statues cannot break the human bonds. Only the bond with another living being can cut the bond with the living beings. The bond with formless God is impossible. The bond with inert statue has no use. The above statements of Holy Jesus indicate that one should cut the bonds with his family and with the wealth. In Hindu religion also it is said that God (Datta) cuts all the bonds of family and wealth (“Dattam Chinnam”). Even the bond with the body should be cut for the sake of the God. Gita says the same thing as “Mat Gata Pranah”. Holy Jesus says that one has to carry his own cross (death) for the sake of the Lord. This means that one has to invite his own death with his own hands for the sake of God. Holy Jesus did like this as an ideal example for others. This means that you have to cut your bonds not only with your family and wealth but also with your life if necessary.

    Hanuman, a top devotee, tore his heart with his own nails for the sake of the Lord and was blessed by the Lord to be immortal. So when the devotee sacrifices his life, his life gets protected forever. The essence of this gospel is that the love is proved only by the practical sacrifice. Veda says “Dhanena Tyage nyke…” which means that sacrifice of money proves the real love.

    Money is the fruit of the work. So money is another form of work. If it is inconvenient to sacrifice the money, atleast they should sacrifice the other form of money, which is work for the sake of God. Depending on the money all the family members are attached to you. If money is not there all the family will leave you. You are also giving the money to your family only. Therefore if the bond with money is cut and if the money is sacrificed to God, the family bonds are considered as vanished, even though the family exists externally. The work of God in human form is the propagation of His divine gospel. For doing such divine work the family also stands as an obstacle because most of your energy is diverted for the family only. Therefore you do not have any energy to work for the sake of Lord.

    Hence Holy Jesus wants His disciples to leave their families for the sake of God. The propagation work needs both money and work. Generally every body works to maintain his family. In the name of maintenance, several luxuries are introduced, which look like essential needs and thus there is no end for your work to earn the money for the sake of your body and your family. Your blindness increases and you will be putting more and more efforts to work and earn money for the sake of the family bonds. In such a case you can never even see the human form of God. At least you should remove your blindness by the divine knowledge if not the actual bonds. People of very high devotion only can cut the actual bonds. You are giving money to your family but you are giving words to God by prayers and you are giving mind to God through meditation.

    You are giving love to your family through your work and money, you are calling the sacrifice of words and sacrifice of mind as love to God and you are fooling the God. Your real love is only with your family and not with the God. Holy Jesus tests your real love to God by these statements. The Christian Pope and fathers and the Hindu Acharya and saints left their families and concentrated completely on the work of God. Such pious souls can only be representatives of God in this world.
     
  2. Aineo

    Aineo Active Member

    Jesus also said "Love your neighbor as yourself", which contradicts your interpretation of Luke 14:26. Jesus did not teach we should hate anyone since if we hate anyone including ourselves we cannot love others as we love ourselves.
     
  3. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 New Member

    I think you have misunderstood the doctrines of Lord Jesus. Lord comes in human form so that we can approach Him without any tension. We can touch Him see Him talk to Him and co-live with Him, He is known as Human Incarnation or Immauael. Jesus was the human incarnaiton of Father. Lord need a human body to interact with us, so that we are benifitied out of it.

    Now when Lord comes to this earth, if you are to get salvation which is the coming out of all the bonds and having only one bond with Lord in human form you have to love only Him. With respect to the creator other family relations are nill or temporay only. Your relation ship is only true with regard to the creator who has come in human form infront of you. You should never love creation more than the creator. You are loving creation means you are bonded with them. Thus, when Lord comes in huamn form and competes with your family relations you have to give utmost importance to Him over the other relations. You will love Human form only when you loved your neighbours. Until that state you reach, you can never love the Lord in huamn for who appears just like you.

    So, a pre-requisite is that you have to love every human being as your self, you have to conquere JEALOSY and EGOISM and recognise each other person as your self. If you are succeeding in that then when Lord comes in human form you will recognise Him. When Lord comes in to picture, you need not worry about others, you should serve Him only. If you are loving others more than Lord in such cases your love is not true love. You have to love such Lrod in Human form (Jesus) more than anything in the world.

    This is the reason why Jesus told;

    Luke—14:26 to 27

    “If any one comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple’’.


    The above statement is applicable only in the case of Lord competing withyour family relations not other wise.

    This is the reason Lord told from here onwards in one family father will fight against son, son again mother.......

    So please anlayse all these points with your brain which Jesus has given you in plenty.
     
  4. Aineo

    Aineo Active Member

    Well at least you got part of it correct, but you missed who Jesus is by appealing to false doctrines taught by Catholicism.

    Jesus is not God incarnate, Jesus is the exact representative of God's nature. The Bible is the only true source of information concerning Jesus and the Father.
     

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