Trinity DebateMy sheep hear My voiceIf you are referring to the things Christ said after John 3:14, then keep in mind that I said, "that does not mean Christians fully understandhow God admisisters His grace to save people." If you fully understand how a person is born again then you do not hear the voice of Christ when he says to Nicodemus, "marvel not" and then gives reference to the wind and says that we "cannot tell where is comes from and where it goes." My point in referencing Romans 9 was not to debate predestination. Paul speculates according to his words by saying "What if....." Paul also said once concerning (I believe) marriage that he does not speak by commandment but by permission. Then he said he thought he had the Spirit of God by speaking certain things by permission. So, go tell Paul about his "lukewarmness" via lack of a firm stance. So, if someone stumbles upon something you said, and asks you a question, you expect them to go through this entire forum to find the answer in a previous post you made? Some people don't have the luxury of being online all day. You know what you said, so why don't you provide the link, re-answer the question, or just copy and paste what you said? Those are a few alternatives rather than just pointing out that you already discussed it. You said: "Therefore, we can discern that those who teach the Trinity do not hear the voice of the Good Shepherd." Does this imply that unless one hears the voice of the Good Shepard, they can't be saved? If not, what did you mean? Being lukewarm has nothing to do with choosing sides in a contraversial debate. Revelation 3:15-19 basically tells us how that church was being lukewarm, according to their works. They were putting their trust in riches and not in God. I probably did mention that, but I cannot recall. Even if I did mention it, it was not to support gay bashing. Homosexuals are no worse sinners than heterosexuals. However, unless they repent, God will punish them both. What you are doing is (allegedly, until you tell me what you meant by saying Trinitarians do not hear the voice of Christ) not the same. Homosexuality is clearly deemed a sin and an abomination to God. However, God will not hold one accountable for not fully grasping His nature. Shall God hold a human being accountable for being "God" themselves? Holding to the Trinity is not going to save anyone, but it is not going to take away their salvation either. Now, if Unitarian doctrine is displayed to them and they neglect it because they want to hold to tradition and not hold true to what their conscience reveals through intellect -- God will hold someone accountable to that. But some Trinitarians are not mentally convinced of Unitarianism, just like when you and I were Trinitarian. So, you think you are watching someone drive off a cliff when in reality they are just about to experience a bumpy ride. |
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