Quran and Bible debateVerse 5:116 :: QuranQuran Farid Wrote: So if the Ishmaelites lost it that easily, what makes you think that Isrealites wont? According to Jesus(Pbuh) they already lost it. Aineo Wrote: Farid Wrote: The treatment of Jews you just mentioned were not during the time of Muhammad(Pbuh), I do not agree with the Muslims that treated the Jews like that, but there were also times when they were treated good, according to Islam, they are to be treated equally: According to Islam, the Jews shouldnt have been mistreated. When Muhammad(pbuh) settled in Madinah, he made a charter which goes like this. "In the name of the most Merciful and Compassionate Lord, this charter is given by Muhammad, the Messenger of Allah to all believers, whether of Quraish or Medina, and all individuals of whatever origin who have made common cause with them, who shall all constitute one nation" The following are some extracts from the charter: The state of peace and war shall be common to all Muslims; no one among them shall have the right of concluding peace with, or delcaring war against, the enemies of co-religionists. The Jews who attach themselves to our commonwealth shall be protected from all insults and vexations; they shall have an equal right with our own people to our assistance and good offices. The jews of the various branches and all others domiciled in Medina shall form with the Muslims one compostie nation; they shall practice their religion as freely as the Muslims. The allies of the Jews shall enjoy the same security and freedom. The guilty shall be pursued and punished. The Jews shall join the Muslims in defending Medina against all enemies. The interior of Medina shall be a sacred place for all who accept htis charter. All true Muslims shall hold in abhorrence every man guilty of crime, injustice or disorder; on one shall uphold the culpable, though he be his nearest kin. Stories of the prophets: By Imam Ibn Kathir, (pg. 404-405) Aineo Wrote: Farid Wrote: You are blaming Islam and Muhammad(pbuh), but if I quote the Quran, that should tell you that the men who persecuted the Jews didnt do it because of the Quran, by quoting the Quran, it wont be louder than actions, but to me they are. So if you dont want me to quote the Quran, then dont post these against Islam, because by showing you the quotes, you will see that it is against Islam to mistreat the Jews. Aineo Wrote: Farid Wrote: please dont make things up, when did Muhammad Kill in order to spread a new faith? Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)" It doesnt matter if Jesus(Pbuh) called the people who prayed alot hypocrites, it doesnt mean that he called them that because they were praying, maybe because they were praying to show off, etc. That would be a little ackward for Jesus(pbuh) to fast for 40 days and then call people who fasted hypocrites, this goes to show that the people whom he called hypocrites may not have been praying with a clean and sincere heart, like Jesus(pbuh) was. Many prophets fasted and prayed, but they did it sincerely, that is where the difference lies, of course even in Islam people who pray just to show off are called hypocrites. Aineo Wrote: Farid Wrote: First of all Muhammad(pbuh) didnt do that, Muhammad(pbuh) fought in self-defense and in just cause, if you think that makes him a false prophet, then I dont know what to say to you. When Muhammad(pbuh) was trying to emigrate to Al-Ta'if, the pagans told their kids to throw rocks at Muhammad(pbuh), the kids did that until the face of Muhammad(pbuh) was bleeding and was swollen, at the end, Muhammad(pbuh) prayed for them so they may become guided, hence they later on embraced Islam. thank you. |
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