Quran and Bible debateVerse 5:116 :: Muhammad(pbuh)Muhammad(pbuh)
Mon Jun 04, 2007 07:21 pm, I am not sure what your question was, are you saying that Muhammad(pbuh) was not prophecised in the Bible, is that your question? here is my question, how is it that supposedly the twin tower accident was hinted in the Bible, or other events, but a man who would change the lives of billions of people, would not be included in there?
I know for a sure that Muhammad(pbuh) is prophecised in the Old and New testament. In the Holy Quran there is a verse that says Muhammad(pbuh) has been mentioned in the Old and New testament.
“Those who follow the Apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own Scriptures, in the Torah and the Gospel…” (Quran 7:157; Trans.: Yusuf Ali)
Now I do agree with just that one part of the treatise of the great seth, and I do not have to agree with all of them, If you agree with a verse in Quran, does that mean you have to believe in the whole Quran. I am sure you believe that Mary(r.a) is mentioned in Quran and you agree that she had a virgin birth, so do you have to believe in the whole Quran? I am sure there are also verses in the Nag Hammadi Library that you agree with, but that doesnt mean you believe in the whole thing.
In Deutronomy 18:18, it is talking about a prophet who will be like Moses, will come from among their brethren, Ishmael could be this brethren, the Bible refers the Israelits as the brothers of Ishamelits in Gen. 16:12, and Gen. 25:18.
And second Muhammad(pbuh) was very much like Moses(pbuh): for example: the natural birth, the natural death, forced emigration, writing the revelation during their lifetime, etc.
and third, God will put His words into his mouth, this can apply to any prophet who was telling people of God's word, but if you read the Quran, you can see that it is not in a narrative form, but the direct words of God, that is why it is hard to understand it.
and fourth, this prophet will speak in Gods name, 113 chapters out of 114 says "In the name of Allah(God), Most gracious, most merciful". And in the Quran it has been said that Allah is God's personal name.
You can repeat that the Quran has no prophecies but that wont do you any good, because you are wrong, thats like me saying " I will repeat, the Bible doesnt have a single prophecy" so who is the blind one. I just posted some of the prophecies of Muhammad(pbuh), Muhammad(pbuh) got those prophecies from Allah, what else are you looking for, It will be very wrong to believe in the Bible but to not follow it, it said in Deutronomy 18:21-22 that a real prophets prophecies will come true, Now if you dont believe in Deutronomy then you can go ahead and say that Muhammad(pbuh) is not a real prophet. what good will it do if you believe in Deutronomy but you are not obeying it? If you are saying that Muhammad(pbuh) is a false prophet, then you shouldnt believe in Deutronomy, and therefore you shouldnt believe in Jesus(pbuh).
A prophecy that Suraqah (a man who was about to kill Prophet Muhammad during the later’s journey to Madinah (Medina) after the pagans plotted to kill him) would become a Muslim,
participate in the Muslim army conquering the Persian Empire and would actually have access to the Emperor’s crown and place it over his head! Not only did this prophecy appear to be a virtual impossibility when it was made, but its fulfillment was so perfect and complete as if the Prophet was looking eye-to-eye at the scene which took place years after his death. The fact that Suraqah did become a Muslim, lived long enough to participate in the conquest of Persia, that the Muslims came out victorious, that Suraqah had access to the Emperor’s crown and actually wore it, can hardly be regarded as a coincidence or a self-fulfilling prophecy. Surely the chances are nil that numerous such prophecies, all in the minutest detail described by Prophet Muhammad, happened by accident! Nor can such 100% accuracy every time and at all times emanate from any other than a true and genuine prophet using the criterion stipulated in Deuteronomy 18:21-22.
http://www.al-sunnah.com/muhammad_in_the_bible.htm
He shall not fail nor be discouraged till he has set judgment in the earth (V. 4), he shall prevail against his enemies (V. 13) and shall bring judgment to the Gentiles (V. 1).
In comparing the lives and missions of Jesus and Muhammad, it becomes readily clear that in the case of Jesus he expressed on more than one occasion how disappointed he was in the Israelites’ rejection of him. Nor did Jesus live long enough on Earth to prevail over his enemies (beyond the moral victory which is a common victory for all prophets).
On the other hand, we find no trace of Prophet Muhammad’s discouragement even in the most critical moments of his mission. In one year his beloved and supporting wife Khadijah died following 25 years of successful marriage; his uncle Abu-Talib, who was instrumental in protecting him from the fury of the pagan Arabs also died. These two tragedies were combined with the fact that his followers constituted only a small persecuted and tortured group. Under such trying circumstances, Muhammad went to the city of at-Taif to invite people to Islam and seek their support in his struggle against paganism. He was rejected, mocked at and stoned to the point of bleeding. In spite of all this he was never “discouraged” to use Isaiah’s term (V. 4): “0 Allah! Forgive my people for they do not know what they’re doing” was his utterance. When Angel Gabriel offered him the chance to retaliate by destroying their city, he refused in the hope that out of the descendants of these wicked people would come those who would worship God, and come they did!
After this bitter struggle, Muhammad “prevailed against his enemies”, established a strong community of believers who indeed “brought judgment to the Gentiles”, especially in the Persian and Byzantine Empires. Many such Gentiles were guided to Islam while others suffered defeats. As such he was truly “a light of the Gentiles” of the whole world.
He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street (V. 2).
Not only was this a distinct characteristic and mark of decency of Muhammad’s, it was indeed the embodiment of the revelation given to him. In the words of the Qur’an:
“Be modest in thy bearing and subdue thy voice. Lo! the harshest of all voices is the voice of the ass. “ (The Qur’an 31:19)
“Allah loveth not the utterance of harsh speech save by one who has been wronged.” (The Qur’an 4:148)
“The Isles shall wait for his law. “ The only prophet who came, after this prophecy was made (Isaiah’s time) with a complete and comprehensive code of law was Prophet Muhammad. The law revealed to him spread to all corners of the earth, even in many remote isles and to the farthest deserts.
He will be sent “to open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house” (V. 7).
Many of those who were opposed to the truth and bitterly fought Muhammad ended up among the most devout believers. Their blindness to truth was cured. Those who lived in the darkness of an unholy life came to the light of truth completed through the mission of Muhammad.
No wonder the Qur’an describes itself as “Nooram-mubeena” or light manifest. Describing the Qur’an, God addresses Prophet Muhammad:
“A book which we revealed unto you, in order that you may lead mankind out of the depths of darkness unto light by the leave of their Lord to the way of Him, the exalted in power, worthy of all praise.“ (The Qur’an 14: l. Emphasis added)
http://www.al-sunnah.com/muhammad_in_the_bible.htm
thank you.
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