Quran and Bible debate

Verse 5:116 :: Verse 16:166

Verse 16:166

That still doesnt answer how Prophet Mohammad(pbuh) came up with verse 16:66, as everyone knows, science is cumulative, and i know what ancient greek scientist knew were close to this sura, but in order for Muhammad(pbuh) to come up with this sura, he first has to study their work, but he was illiterate and before he became a prophet, he was a trader and a shepard. and second after studying Aristotles work, he then has to experiment with them, so how did he come up with this sura in a few minutes.

Anyone who doesnt believe that Muhammad(pbuh) was a prophet will probably come to a conclusion that he studied ancient greek philosophers work and then began his own experiment and came up with these suras. Lets say that was the case, he probably got some goats and experimented with them, but how do you explain the scientific verses that it was almost impossible for Muhammad(pbuh) to experiment with. for example:

[015] And We send the fecundating (to impregnate or fertilize) winds, then cause the rain to descend from the sky, therewith providing you with water (in abundance), though ye are not the guardians of its stores.

this verse is incredible, it is describing wind as fecundating wind, well because it is the winds that carry the aerosols to the water vapours, thus producing water droplets and rain.

[030] It is God Who sends the Winds, and they raise the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments, until thou seest rain-drops issue from the midst thereof: then when He has made them reach such of his servants as He wills behold, they do rejoice!-

How will an illiterate man, know that it is the winds that hold the heavy clouds floating in the air.

So people can argue that Sura 16:66 is made up by Muhammad(pbuh) because he learned from ancient philosophers, but I dont see how Muhammad(pbuh) could have experimented with clouds and wind.

thank you.

View Parent Message

View dfilename

Return Home

Current thread:

Verse 5:116 Anonymous Thursday, September 12 2019 7:40 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Tuesday, June 8 2021 6:47 am

Verse 5:116 :: verse 5:116 by Anonymous Thursday, August 5 2021 11:43 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Friday, July 8 2022 1:05 pm

Verse 5:116 by Anonymous Thursday, April 1 2021 11:07 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Sunday, May 2 2021 6:45 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Pharoah by Anonymous Friday, March 15 2019 3:47 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Saturday, October 5 2019 10:56 am

Verse 5:116 by Anonymous Monday, October 5 2020 2:39 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Monday, December 5 2022 12:02 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Saturday, January 21 2023 3:08 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Verse 16:166 by Anonymous Saturday, August 5 2023 8:20 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Tuesday, January 26 2021 3:46 am

Verse 5:116 :: Scientific miracles by Anonymous Wednesday, June 1 2022 12:42 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Thursday, February 13 2020 12:42 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Tuesday, March 5 2019 7:19 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Wednesday, December 15 2021 4:17 am

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad(pbuh) by Anonymous Sunday, May 26 2019 12:58 am

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Muhammad(pbuh) by Aineo Wednesday, September 25 2019 8:28 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Sunday, May 2 2021 6:08 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Thursday, July 25 2019 11:19 am

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad(pbuh) by Anonymous Monday, December 4 2023 2:49 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Monday, June 22 2020 1:23 am

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad(pbuh) by Anonymous Thursday, July 21 2022 4:40 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Thursday, November 5 2020 6:57 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad(pbuh) by Anonymous Monday, February 14 2022 11:27 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Wednesday, November 11 2020 12:19 am

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad(pbuh) by Anonymous Saturday, October 15 2022 2:54 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Thursday, October 7 2021 4:06 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Monday, May 16 2022 10:11 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Tuesday, December 17 2019 10:19 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Thursday, June 29 2023 8:26 am

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Friday, April 10 2020 5:48 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Tuesday, September 20 2022 2:46 am

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Saturday, September 24 2022 12:22 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Quran by Aineo Tuesday, November 23 2021 5:54 am

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Tuesday, November 10 2020 12:46 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Sunday, February 10 2019 8:59 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Monday, March 11 2019 9:28 am

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Muhammad by Aineo Friday, March 8 2024 4:36 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Friday, May 22 2020 10:40 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Muhammad by Aineo Wednesday, August 31 2022 5:30 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Saturday, July 9 2022 3:44 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Monday, February 10 2020 12:52 am

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Friday, April 15 2022 12:29 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Monday, September 21 2020 11:21 am

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Friday, October 14 2022 1:23 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Thursday, July 23 2020 9:16 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Wednesday, March 29 2023 3:16 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Friday, January 14 2022 8:05 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Monday, May 30 2022 7:53 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Tuesday, August 3 2021 6:20 am

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Tuesday, July 27 2021 1:53 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Saturday, December 21 2019 9:26 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Wednesday, July 20 2022 6:36 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Thursday, December 21 2023 4:53 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Monday, December 2 2019 11:34 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Sunday, June 4 2023 6:42 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Muhammad by Aineo Sunday, May 30 2021 4:33 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Muhammad by Anonymous Sunday, December 11 2022 9:36 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Muhammad by Aineo Tuesday, December 10 2019 10:57 am

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Wednesday, July 22 2020 7:01 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Monday, July 4 2022 9:48 am

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Thursday, March 21 2024 12:47 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Quran by Aineo Tuesday, January 18 2022 4:34 am

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Monday, December 26 2022 9:37 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Tuesday, May 7 2019 12:14 am

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Monday, May 15 2023 6:51 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Thursday, July 14 2022 11:07 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Sunday, May 17 2020 12:45 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Monday, November 1 2021 5:23 am

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Thursday, June 1 2023 5:05 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Wednesday, August 30 2023 5:14 am

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Wednesday, August 28 2019 2:16 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Quran by Aineo Monday, April 1 2024 11:04 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Tuesday, January 31 2023 10:25 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Quran by Aineo Saturday, August 8 2020 5:00 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Monday, May 6 2019 2:43 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Wednesday, January 9 2019 5:17 am

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Thursday, November 4 2021 4:34 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Friday, April 17 2020 7:11 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Friday, December 20 2019 6:44 am

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Monday, August 7 2023 12:29 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Tuesday, February 15 2022 9:24 pm

Verse 5:116 by Aineo Wednesday, April 29 2020 5:11 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Saturday, August 27 2022 2:31 am

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Quran by Aineo Saturday, July 16 2022 10:30 pm

Verse 5:116 :: Quran by Anonymous Tuesday, April 18 2023 1:07 am

Verse 5:116 :: Re: Quran by Aineo Sunday, November 28 2021 4:34 pm

not cached

🌈Pride🌈 goeth before Destruction
When 🌈Pride🌈 cometh, then cometh Shame

Bible News

The Greek Word Pharma in Revelation 18:23, Does it Refer to Big Pharma? - Thu, 07 Apr 2022 13:09:12
If you are a country club church working out of a country club building who wants to have a Country Club Church Website... - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:45:41
Gematria of the Egyptian Hieroglyphs - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 16:26:48
Oldest Manuscript P47 shows Σ Sigma not Ξ Samekh for 60 in the 666 from Revelation 13:18 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 09:30:56
What does biblical “inerrancy” mean? | Richard Ostling - Patheos - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 09:29:08
DC museum unveils rare 1,000-year-old Hebrew Bible - The Times of Israel - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:54:59
Ancient Canaanite temple with statues of Baal found in southern Israel - Haaretz - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:53:28
Inside the Lachish Temple, the Earliest Example of the Letter Samekh - The Daily Beast - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:44:02
Israeli scholars discover corrections, erasures, revisions in oldest biblical manuscript - Haaretz - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:42:27
Museum of the Bible returns hand-written gospels looted from Greece during the First World War - Art Newspaper - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:41:24
Bible study: Ancient Jewish manuscript analysed using state-of-the-art cameras - Daily Mail - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:39:25
Is a Long-Dismissed Forgery Actually the Oldest Known Biblical Manuscript? - The New York Times - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:32:39
More Dead Sea Scrolls, second oldest Hebrew Bible manuscript, found after 60 years - ThePrint - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:30:23
A Biblical Mystery and Reporting Odyssey: 1883 Fragments - The New York Times - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:24:46
Lost Bible Fragment Recovered Among Dead Sea Scrolls | Lost Bible Fragment Recovered Among Dead Sea Scrolls - Patheos - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:14:35
African Script Sheds Light on Evolution of Writing - DISCOVER Magazine - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 21:47:13
Evidence of ‘biblical giants’ found in northern Israel - The Jerusalem Post - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 21:39:06
Oldest precursor to letter S aka Samekhi was found in nine-letter Canaanite text unearthed in Israel - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 21:39:06
In Tigray, Christianity May Be Erased - FSSPX.Actualités - FSSPX.News - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 14:12:41
Rocket Science Confirms Biblical Creation - Answers In Genesis - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:28:44

Christian how we Support the Ministry
Industrial Electronic Repair
Industrial Monitor Repair
Power Supply Repair
ebay

Manufacture's Repaired
A B C D E F G H I J K L
M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

Simple Rules for this Site!

Posted by Webmaster on Saturday, August 31 2002

Web-Ministry is intended for the Glory of God.
Please try to be respectful of God and to be reverent toward His Word, which is the Holy Bible.
Some may not be Christian nor agree with Christian theology in general, but please be respectful of those that do and to Christendom in general.
People from all walks of life and backgrounds of faith are welcome here, including the backslidden and nonbelievers, as well.
We may not all agree... but we can agree to disagree, at least.
However, any potential disagreements still need to remain civil in nature, and should stay as such.
Please, just debate the points of your position, if necessary, and refrain from ad hominem attacks. Slandering and name calling serve no productive purpose.
Posting rules are based upon decent conduct and generally acceptable chat behavior and, also, on Christian beliefs and morals found in the Holy Bible.
Please refrain from using offensive language or obscenely suggestive innuendo.
Usernames that are not becoming of basic common decency and morality are not to be used and may possibly result in membership cancellation.
Refusing to follow forum rules may result in membership cancellation and possibly some or all applicable posts being deleted and if necessary... entire threads.
If you feel these things to be unacceptable, please find another forum to post on.Thank you.
dp,webmaster,Chrysoprasus,wilshine

Jesus Christ Forums
To the Glory of Jesus Christ!

Jesus Christ Forums Software Testing

Radio for Jesus 24/7

Hosted by $SamekhiAmI

Surplus by Samekhi
OR

Cash app $SamekhiAmI

Manufacture's Repaired
A B C D E F G H I J K L
M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

Web-Ministry Created this page in 7.767302 seconds