Quran and Bible debateTHIS IS NOT A QURAN AND BIBLE DEBATE !??Aineo* This is a very nice statement, I like it very much specially when it comes from a Christian!!.. I really gongratulate you for such advancement, but you still have way much to go on your hardworking studies....I still don't understand why you hate islam and view it as your enemy??!!!...well from the way you deal and talk about islam and Quran... your hateret is very clear and I wonder why?.... Once I had a partnership relation with an american man...eventhough, I helped many americans to convert into islam ( my wife also is an american convert to islam), but this man whos name was David was very clear and honest with me, he agreed with islam in everything and one day he told me look Figsolives: " I believe in every word and teaching in islam and Quran, but the truth is I can't do it, it is too much for me, I can't live a life like yours, I want to enjoy my life"...his words made me understand more why those born in islam but not muslims in reality... well, they want to enjoy their lives, as if islam takes the joy of life!!!... as far for me, the happyness and joy that my heart is full of it, and only by practicing islam, well, there is no words to discribe it better than a famous scholar ( ibin Taymiyeh) who was in prison at the time when he said his famous words " if the kings could see the Paradise that exsits in our hearts, surely they will rage a war against us to get it"!!...and my own words will be " those who didn't live the life of darkness can't appretiate the life of light (NUR), it is easier for me to through myself in fire than to reject and go out of islam Aburaees* You got that wrong as far it goes for me... this is only the beginning, and remember that I am not only a muslim, but also I am an ex Arab Christian... well, since this is a Quran and Bible debate as you calim, and you claim that Mohammad (SAAWS) copied the Bible!!!! to write his book!!!! I will chose a topic, then I will list what the Bible has to say about it and on the other hand what Quran has to say about it....and I will let the reader to chose for himself/herself what he/she thinks and see on what side the TRUTH is....in this comparative listing which will have no outside opinion (only the words of the two books),then the TRUTH will stand out for itself and then we shall see weather it was coppied or CORRECTED the lies and treason to God of the used to be God chosen people Isralites " The Jews"...but to do so I will open a new thread: WHAT THE QURAN AND BIBLE SAY ABOUT... Aineo* Me* ... Moreover, going over your quotation again I see that you are misquoting the Quran!!!!???? I don't know it seems that there are some lines in your "quote" that you just took it out !!! once again I wonder why?!!! as you see in 10:93 please go and read it again 10:93*......and they differed not until the knowledge came to them. Verily, Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection in that in which they used to differ. Let us go back to 2:47....you have to read from 2:40 2:40* O children of Israel! Remember My Favour which I bestowed upon you, and fulfill My Covenant so that I fulfill your covenant, and fear none but Me. 2:41* And believe in what I have sent down (this Quran), confirming that which is with you, and be not the first to disbelieve therein, and buy not with My Verses ( the Torah) a small price ( getting a small gain by selling My Verses), and fear Me and Me alone. 2:42* And mix not truth with falsehood, and do not conceal the truth while you know ( the truth ) 2:43* And perform Salat ( the obligatory Prayer ) and give Zakat ( the obligatory Charity ) and make Rukuu ( to bow down to Allah) along with those who bow down to Allah 2:44 You order the people to righteousness and you forget yourselves, while you recite the Book! Have you then no sense? 2:45 And seek help in patience and performing the Prayers, and truly it is extremely heavy and hard exepct for those who are Khashieen (obey Allah with full submission) 2:46 Those who are certain that they are going to meet their Lord, and that unto Him they are going to return. 2:47 O children of Israel! REMEMBER My Favour which I bestowed upon you and that I preferred you to the Alamin ( mankind and jinns) ( in the past ) then please keep reading untill 2:73 where Allah is telling us the story of children of Israel with Prophet Moses......then 2:74 Then after that, your hearts were hardened and became as stones or even worse in hardness. And indeed, there are stones out of which rivers gush forth, and indeed, there are of them(stones) which split asunder so that water flows from them, and indeed, there are of them(stones) which fall down for fear of Allah. And Allah is not unaware of what you do. .....keep on reading untill 2:79* Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "THis is from Allah," to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby.....Keep on reading..... 2:88 And they say (the Jews) " Our hearts are wrapped ( do not hear or understand Allah's Word)" Nay, Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so little is that which they believe. Keep on reading .....untill 2:122 2:122* O children of Isreal! Remember My Favour which I bestowed upon you and that I prefered you to the Alamin (mankind and jinns) ( in the past) 20:80 Please read 20:81 26:59 ......this verse is not talking about the Promised land here....go back to and start reading from 26:52 until 67 ....man from where do you get the Promised land in these verses....at the end of verse 67 God says that " Verily! In this is indeed a sign ( or a proof ), yet most of them ( Isralites) ARE NOT BELIEVERS. 45:16 ... please read also 17... 44:32..." And we chose them ( the children of israel) above the Alamin ( mankind and jinns) [during the time of Musa (Moses) ] with knowledge.....go back to 17....read until 33 32:23....And indeed We gave Musa(Moses) the book. So be not you in doubt of meeting him(Moses). And We made it a guide to the children of Israel*23* And we made from among them leaders, giving guidance under our command, when they were patient and used to believe with certtainty in our Ayat (Proofs,verses,sings, revelations)...read 25 17:104 ...Man where do you get this Promised Land from...you are not honest in your translation!!!....there is no promised land to the jews in Quran....Allah will gather them, but he didn't say where...now in our time we see that they are gathered in Palestine...Prophet Mohammad told us in one of his hadeeth... " the hour won't come until you ( Muslims ) fight the Jews, You are on the east side of the river and they are on the west side of the river" !!!!! accually this hadeeth is one of Prophet Mohammad's miracles....for he didn't mentioned what river he is talking about...and there was no certain place (state) of jews at that time, they were scatered all over ....and there was not one muslim man on the east side of Jordan river at the time he told this hadeeth!!!....BUT let us read on this from Surah 17 Al-Israa ( The Journey by Night) for it is very important ...it tells us what is going to happen to the children of Israel.... 17:2* And we gave Musa(Moses) the Book and made it a guidance for the children of Israel (saying): " Take not other than Me as (your) Wakil(Protector, Lord, Disposer of your affairs,.) 17:3* "O offspring of those whom We carried (in the ship) with Nuh (Noah)! Verily, he was a greatful slave." 17:4 And We Decreed for the children of Israel in the Book, that indeed you would do mischief on the earth twice and you will become tyrants and extremely arrogant! 17:5* So, when the promise came for the first of the two, We sent against you slaves of Ours given to terrible warfare. They entered the very innermost parts of your homes. And it was a promise (completely) fulfilled. 17:6* Then We gave you once again, a return of victory over them. And We heleped you with wealth and children and made you more numerous in manpower. 17:7* If you do good, you do good for your ownselves, and if you do evil ( you do it ) against yourselves. " Then, when the second promise will come to pass, ( We permitted ( surely going to happen) your enemies) to make your faces sorrowful and to enter the mosque (of Jerusalem) as they had entered it before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that fell in their hands. then let us go to..104 7:104* And We said to the children of Israel after him (Pharaoh): "Dwell in the land, then when the second promise comes near. We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd ( gathered out of various nations)....once again Aineo there is no mentioning of the promise land here...and only in our time, now we understand how and where the jews will be gathered...before the existing of Israel no muslim scholar new where and how the jews will be gathered....all of this came to our knowledge after England gave Palestine to the jews in the 20th century. |
🌈Pride🌈 goeth before Destruction
When 🌈Pride🌈 cometh, then cometh Shame