Religious Cults & False Prophets~ Discussions and DebatesDEBUNKING THE TRINITYXenagirl wrote:Since Jesus returned to his Father, and resides on the Ladder of Authority just beneath Him, he too is again Holy Spirit. So, why would the Holy Spirit (a part of Yahweh's Active Force) that is made up of both Yahweh and Christ, why is it that the Holy Spirit would not know all things? Jesus went beyond being the human Son of the sacrifice. He is Spirit again, just as he was as the Word, but with "angels, authorities and powers" subjected to him. The Apostle Peter knew who Christ was. He knew he was not Yahweh. He stated at Matthew 16:16 "Simon Peter answered: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." That was in reply to Christ asking Peter who he thought he was. Peter did not say "You are Yahweh in the flesh." He knew Christ was the Son, but did not interpret him to be God Almighty.
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"In the beginning" is proven to be the Word's beginning - not ours. Proverbs 8:22 "The Lord (speaking of Yahweh as the Word's Lord) brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old." That Scripture reveals a part of the "Mystery" of how the Word came into existence. Then drop down to Verse 23 "I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began." Was that the Word's beinning, or our beginning? It was his beginning. Because the other piece of the puzzle is at Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Not created by Yahweh Himself - but through His Masterworker or Craftsman, the Word. Proverbs 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was given birth, before he made the earth or its fields or any dust of the world." Why did the Word say "before he made"? Because he used his Father's knowledge, Wisdom, and a part of the Active Force imparted to him to be able to accomplish that feat. So, it can be said Yahweh created everything. But the Scriptures reveal that the Word created all else. Colossians 1:15-17 bears that out as part of this "Mystery." "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created; things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers, or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. To know that he created everything else aside from himself and his Father, we read Proverbs 8:30 "Then I was the craftsman at his side." Craftsman definition: " A worker skilled in a particular craft." From the definition you can see that the Word's Father taught him his craft. It was a gift from Yahweh to his only begotten Son. Through the Word, all other things came into existence.
You have also missed a couple of pieces to the puzzle that is the mystery of the Lord. One is that the risen Lord is not a “Holy Spirit” since He ascended and now sits at the right hand of God in a glorified human body. The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father not the Son (John 15:26).
Proverbs 8 is not about the Son of God, Proverbs 8 concerns God’s wisdom, which was God’s tool to create all that is seen and unseen. God’s wisdom is expressed and made understandable in the words He used to create, communicate with men, and communicate with His Son. Peter understood this since Peter tells us the man Jesus Christ is the predetermined plan (Acts 2:23) for the salvation of those who put their faith in Jesus Christ as God’s Anointed One who came into this world as a human being, not as a preexistent holy spirit.
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