Judaism ForumAsk an Orthodox JewHello Truthseeker. God so transcends our thinking...that it is hard for us to conceive that in order for there to be nothing...nothing would have to be created. You have excellent points. My belief is that God created (from nothing) everything visible and invisible. And they are not Him. Paul said in Acts 17 that in Him (God) we live and move and have our being. Even though God is not these things yet they are in Him. I believe God spoke all things into being. But when John said in 1:1 that in the beginning was the Word...My take on that is that before the beginning began, God had willed, expressed, and set in place the entire thought, plan and method for His dream, desire, and pleasure. (and the Word was with God). This thought of thought (Word) logos...would pertain to God. It would always reflect His doings and always point towards Him eternally and testify to His genius. (and God was the Word) And this entire thought was wonderfully expressed and centered upon and rested in the fact that God would be housed in humanity in which all of creation would stand or fall. (The same was in the beginning with God) His humanity was in view at all times. Everything would be created... with him (always) in mind. (all things were made) and came into existence (because of him); (and without him) without this grand thought of God being a human, (was not even one thing made that was made) or come into being. It would be this very image and likness that the first manifested man, Adam, would be made...and therefore, the plan of plans, the thought of thought, the logos, was engaged in which our God through Mary would be "the man" by whom are all things...for whom are all things...and to him are all things...(and the Word was made flesh). This man would be the only life that God would ever have (for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son or life). This was a one shot deal for God. Everything would rest upon this one life that He would give. To wit, God was in Christ (the man) reconciling the world to Himself. The Old Testament paints a beautiful picture of this in the Tabernacle of Moses. The pattern was after the heavenly (from before the beginning). The structure itself was a picture of the son (christ) made by man while God was the occupier. A good view of the Father in the Son. And like Aineo, I see the son by itself as simply flesh not God. But God in this flesh is the Father in full view. Again...that's just my view. There are many in this forum who have differing viewpoints. Thanks for your viewpoints. They were well received and appreciated and still being considered. DMP |
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