Revelation and Prophecy :: Eschatology666 and the mark of the beast :: Re: a reply to peteRe: a reply to pete I thought what I did was demonstrate it. Let me try again. Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm Please click on the links I put in this forum. None of them will bite and if you don't our conversation will run in circles. There was no such thing as a 7-year tribulation until John Darby invented it in the late 1800s. He based his theory on Daniel's 70th week. He would really necessarily have to be in error though because God promised that He sealed the book of Daniel. Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and sealed till the time of the end. http://www.fish-house.com/pdf/An-End-Time-Myth.pdf http://www.fish-house.com/pdf/Daniels70thWeek.pdf On what basis? Perhaps God helped direct the "Left Behind" series to give dispensationalists a great big slap upside the head. It is a movie about a man, who has other men, going around house to house and putting goofy goggles on people, who are then not only mesmerized but even uncrippled through the goggles, which then through the air burn a mark on a hand. If this is not EXACTLY the stuff of 2 Timothy 4:3, then WHAT IS? I am not saying that dispensationalism may not have been of God. While John Darby is credited (incorrectly) with being the father of dispensationalism, dispensationalism is credited with ZIONISM which also began in the late 1800s. Maybe God inspired dispen it not only to return the Jews to Israel but maybe also to grow the church, since it created so much excitment in the Church during the 20th century. Bear in mind we were not to be able to get past the seal on the book of Daniel until the "time of the end". It wasn't until 1948 and 1967 had passed that we were able to do the mathematics of Daniel and Revelation and check the results BACKWARDS through time, to prove them. I am saying that dispensationalism perhaps has had its season. Today, a movie about an Antichrist fable, and the spectacle of TBN and the con-men and even criminals for Christ, are the FRUIT of the tree of dispensational eschatology. I am glad I have walked up out of that valley myself. I am now looking eagerly for my Savior's return, not my own cowardly exit before tribulation. Don't a million folks martyred in the Sudan alone mean anything? Nor am I. I am doing His will as I am moved by the power of the Holy Spirit. That's the problem with doctrine. Dispensationalism is an inverted pyramid of presumption where Scofield annotation is used to explain Scofield annotation. Three of Scofield's editors walked off the job when he started including Darby in the annotations. Go to this link for Blue Letter Bible and type antichrist - into the search blank. There are only 4 verses in the whole Bible that use that word. http://blueletterbible.org/index.html Based on thsee verses antichrist is clearly a SPIRIT that lives in hundreds of millions of dark hearts today. The "man" part I detailed at the beginning of this post. EVERYTHING ABOUT THE DOME OF THE ROCK IS ANTICHRIST. http://www.bibleplaces.com/domeofrock.htm Article "Antichrist Myth". http://www.fish-house.com/pdf/AntichristMyth.pdf We may well be required to wear a chip or something to control commerce. If you read Foxes Book of the Martyrs, you will quickly understand that all that would really be required is a statement to each teller, cashier, policeman, etc. that God has no Son - like it says on the Dome of the Rock. Not complicated. And here is that "holy" (in Islam) mark http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm Will it need to be visible? Perhaps.
Answered above. Further, I believe we are indeed the last generation, the same as you. The difference is that 12 separate mathematical problems given to us in the book of Daniel and Revelation demonstrate that the Dome of the Rock was indeed the abomination of desolation. I believe we will be raptured, but at the last trump as it says in scripture 1Cr 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. . Even as a dispensationalist I was never very comfortable with the easy-out of the pre-trib rapture. I always said I prayed for a pre-trib rapture but prepared myself for a post tribulation rapture, even while I was sure of pre-trib. WE ARE THE LAST GENERATION. Some measure a generation as 40 years which added to 1967 is 2007 BUT maybe we should use the actual end of OUR generation, perhaps another 50 years from now (for those born in 1948) as a measure. No date setting! - enough of the dispensationalists on TBN have done this and repeatedly shown themselves to appear as false prophets, particularly to the unsaved. Looking at the events in the Middle East I suspect the time table is short. When I came up out of the valley of dispensationalism, through scripture, it not only made my Bible study richer (before, what I was supposed to believe kept disagreeing with Matthew Henry and others all the time) but now every tidbit I see on the news etc. has crystal clarity. If you lived in downtown Detroit you would be listening to the blaring of the call to prayer 2 minutes per call, 5 times per day, and I suspect you would be more willing to review what you believe. Dispensational eschatology has only been with us a hundred years. Before that, if you told somebody what you believe they would have thought you were from the moon. WE can all thank God that we are not tested on our understanding of prophecy before being allowed to enter the Pearly Gates! If you read Skolfield's books they will free you. I still attend a mega church that happens to have a futurist doctrine. I love the singing and very little changes with most of our Bible study. What changed for me is the timing of the rapture, and the tribulation not being the Darby 7-year theory, and the fact that my eyes are open now. Hundreds of folks are saved in my church every month. Don't think for a minute that doctrine has even a little to do with salvation, or we would likely all be hell-bound. I am simply trying to get it right. I feel less cowardly now too. If your church was teaching that, instead of escape from having to stand up for your creator, they were instead teaching (metaphorically) the proper way to tilt your chin up and extend your neck for your captors, do you think there may be just a few more that might go home on Sunday crack a Bible and read to their kids, rather than going home, slamming a six-pack and helping their kids pick out which football star is most deserving of their praise? |
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