Trinity DebateIs the Holy Spirit the 3rd person of the Trinity?The "Seven spirits of God" is an allusion to the Zoroastrian belief of the 7 Amesha Spentas, or seven emanations of God. yeah, I have no idea why that was included in Revelations. Perhaps it meant 7 archangels, and that's just a seperate convergent belief. A spirit is just a name for a spiritual being. We have spirits. Ghosts are spirits. Demons are spirits. Angels are spirits. God is the Holy Spirit, which is God manifested as the Spirit, true. This Holy Spirit is interesting, and interesting how it's described in various verses. It woulod seem that there's more to the Spirit than just an active force of God, like what JW's believe. Even Jews believe this is God immanent vs God transcendant. That's a pre-trinitarian idea. There's something too the Spirit. Skipping around this and denyiong support for thsi in scripture as added stuff, that's kinda weak. Why do you want to dance around the idea of the Trinity? I would like for you to tell me personally what about the Trinmity bothers you? because it's a Mystery? Mystery that's capitalized like that doesn't mean a cheap excuse for I dunno, it means a truely divine Mystery. Transubstantiation and all that Catholic jargon I'm sure deserves it's own thread. I KNOW that John wasn't a Gnostic and Paul wasn't a Hellenist but a hard core Jew. Just as I know the Trinity isn't some pagan influenced concept, because there is evidence for it in the Bible. There are rational explanations for various things and supposed contradictions. Picking what ya like cause it sounds right to you isn't the way to go about Christianity, or religion in general. So many Christians don't feel this way. I remain quite unconvinced that the Trinity is a false doctrine. Are you so sure that I and the rest of us here are living in blindness? You don't think we haven't asked the same questions "Is the Trinity for real??" All Christians ponder over it at some point. The evidences are there, it's real. Sure there's a little philosophy thrown in to tie it all together. |
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