beads wrote:All Jews alive when the Lord returns again will be saved.
You still believe that faith in Christ is the only way to salvation, don't you? But what you are saying here is that all Jews, even those that don't believe, will be saved simply because they are Jews who made it through to the second coming. It can't be both ways.
That is not what I am saying. It seems you would rather avoid the real issue that the grafted wild olive can be cut off by focusing on what Paul wrote concerning the Jews who will be grafted back in after the fullness of the gentiles is complete.
I didn't say he was. I simply said you are interpreting his meaning differently than I am.
Which is why we will probably never come to the same conclusion since I have not interpreted what Paul wrote you have.
Abraham is the natural olive, gentiles who believe and do not depart from the faith are the grafted wild olive that remains to the end.
If Abraham is the natural olive, then it makes perfect sense that being grafted into him means that you become a partaker of the blessings and promises that were given to him; and that by being cut off you are removed from those blessing and promises.
Which includes salvation.