Child Molestation is a Sin!Sexual relations between an adult and a minor :: Thank you for your response. Allow me to rebut...Thank you for your response. Allow me to rebut... What is your factual basis for making such a bold statement? Could you direct me to some research which validates your claims, or are you simply repeating what you have heard or been led to believe? If you are unable to do so, could you at the very least point me to scripture that condemns pedophilia? Unfortunately, many of you adopt an ideology based upon your own prejudices but which has no actual factual basis. The danger and foolhardiness of doing so has been demonstrated many times throughout history. One memorable example is the reaction of the Catholic Church to Galileo's insistence that we live in a heliocentric solar system. Blind ideology and prejudice of the type you are espousing is just the same as the blind ideology and prejudice preached by Osama bin Laden. Rather than actually seeking truth, you are trying to impose your warped understanding of the truth on others. Please try to back up your future statements with facts and evidence. Petitio Principii arguments are not an effective means of debate, and will not be taken seriously by me (or any other intelligent person). You continued by saying: I am not trying to justify anything with my statements about the Virgin Mary. I am simply pointing out a historical fact that throughout much of history, puberty was when children were considered adults and were able to become sexually active. Ages of consent are a relatively new convention, and the original reasons for their adoption were to stem child prostitution (Great Britain) and to pander to the desires of religious extremists (United States). Please refer to the following link for an excellent academic discussion of child sexuality from the time of the ancients to the present day: http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.dae/sexology/GESUND/ARCHIV/GUS/HISTORYCHHSWEB.HTM Much of the problems modern anglo-saxon society is experiencing with teenage pregnancy, date rape and other forms of sexual violence stems from the fact that society floods the airwaves with a message of provocative sexuality whilst forbidding curious young people from coming to terms with and realizing their own sexuality. Puberty undeniably is a very strong signal from nature that the body has become sexually mature. Indeed, the body is flooded with hormones which create heightened sexual desire. To force or manipulate young people into suppressing these desires is foolhardy. For some more factual information about this, please have a look at the following link: http://www.personal.pse.edu/faculty/n/x/nxd10/adbio3.htm Among other things, the study states: A 1999 government by the British Government poignantly shows the results of adopting a restrictive policy towards teenage sexuality. In the United States and Great Britain, where policies are restrictive, rates are several times higher than in societies (primarily in Western Europe) where policies are less restrictive. Educational systems designed to ignore the real possibility of sexual experimentation and provide teens with information and contraceptives have failed miserably. Abstinence education simply does not work. Please have a look at the following BBC special report for further information about the study. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1999/04/99/teen_pregnancy/319869.stm Then you asked: Firstly, I have stated quite clearly in my previous post and on my 'propaganda' website that I am not in favor of using children as sexual objects. I wrote that I am interested in forming romantic attachments with young people and that I believe that physical expression of a mutually experienced love is both edifying and beautiful. Making hasty generalizations of my motives and beliefs will not effectively further the course of this debate. Please try to read what I write not what you expect to see. Secondly, please provide me with evidence supporting your claim that adult-child sexual relationships have "long-term adverse consequences". I fully agree that non-consensual sexual content between adults and children can indeed be traumatic. The 1998 Rind report, however, calls into question the long-term effects of child sexual abuse. I am providing the following link to the report in case you are not familiar with Dr. Rind's meta-analysis: http://www.ipca.info/library_8/rbt/metaana.htm Another report, which appeared in the JournaI of Sex Education & Therapy in 1989, indicates quite clearly that relationships between adults and young people are often not harmful at all and that children indeed do have sexual desires and urges. Allow me to quote: Later in the paper, it says: For the full text of this paper, please consult the following link: http://www.ipca.info/ipceweb/Library/nelson.htm To make myself absolutely clear so that there is no room for misunderstanding, I am absolutely opposed to any sexual activity that is non-consensual. I only advocate romantic relations which occur on the basis of informed consent of both parties. Next you made the statement: Once again, you have obviously fallen into the trap of attributing the attributes of high-profile child molesters to me and to other pedophiles. This is common known as the 'spotlight' fallacy and is yet another ineffective method of argumentation. If you read my site and what I am writing here, you would see that I put the welfare of children very highly and value other facets of a relationship more highly than the sexual aspect. If I were ruled by "baser animalistic sexual drives" (incidentally, this is an excellent example of misleading vividness) I would have to be locked up as I would instinctively try and mount any female whom I encountered. As it is, I have little trouble exercising self-control, and abide by the laws of the country where I reside regarding with whom and under what circumstances I can engage in sexual activity. You backed up your statement with the following scriptures: I do not see how these scriptures form a justification for the condemnation of pedophilia. Actually, I agree with both scriptures. I certainly believe that one must approach God as a child. Indeed, one of the reasons I enjoy the company of children so much is that they help me once again to see the world as it is, not as we have been conditioned to see it. Furthermore, on further examination, these scripture passages say much more in favor of adult-child relations than they do against. If you will recall the context, Jesus told the disciples to allow the children to come unto him when the disciples tried to turn away people who had brought their children to be blessed. The disciples' reaction is quite similar to the way children are often treated today. They are often required to be 'seen and not heard' and are often treated in a condescending fashion by adults who think they are full of 'silly notions' and 'childish thoughts'. Concerning children and stumbling blocks, I believe that those who insist on not equipping children with factual information about their bodies and their sexuality are the ones who are causing children to stumble. If you recall the report on teenage pregnancy I cited earlier, you will see that in societies where information about sexuality and birth control are widely available, teenage pregnancy levels are lower. The witholding of information is one of the greatest causes of stumbling. Empowerment and enlightenment allow young people to move forward with confidence that they will not stumble. Incidentally, I agree that very strict measures ought to be taken against those that cause children to stumble or bring harm to them. Unfortunately, your premise appears to be that romantic relationships with adults cause children to 'stumble'. Unless you can provide proof that consensual relations between adults and children indeed have this effect, I will have to treat this as a case of confusing cause and effect. Last week, I read quite an interesting article by San Francisco based psychologist Michael Bader about pedophilia and child abuse. In the article, Mr. Bader argues that the hysteria surrounding pedophilia is totally overblown and is actually a disservice to children, since many more pervasive forms of child abuse cause significantly more damage than actual or perceived sexual abuse. You might take a moment to have a look at it. http://www.tikun.org/magezine/index.cfm/action/tikkun/issue/tik0305/article/030524.html To close, I will provide you with one of my favorite verses from the scriptures: I have no doubts that my attraction to young girls is honorable, just and pure, and anybody can see that young girls are lovely, gracious and worthy of praise. With great joy I think on my love and on the beautiful angels whom are the objects of that love. With kind regards, Amator Puellularum |
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