Christian/Muslim ThreadsChristmas is a Pagan Holiday :: Re: Explanation of Surah 81, Verse 20Re: Explanation of Surah 81, Verse 20 Even more amazing are the Arabic speaking Muslims that actually think that modern colloquial Arabic will help them in understanding the written text of their book of faith. Arabic is a horrendously corrupted language that has changed significantly in meaning since the Koran was first penned (not the 1400 years ago….as you are discovering). Not this one.
You have just provided the quintessential ignorant Islamic mentality. If you had actually looked very far into the understanding of the classic Arabic in which your book of faith was written, then you have quickly discovered that the best lexicographical work in the field of ancient Arabic, and comprehension of the ayahs of the Koran, were written by a Christian! E.W. Lane, a Christian, devoted 34 years of his life to compiling the Arabic English Lexicon – which has been the reference standard for the past 150+ years – and is used extensively by Muslims. Further, the authors who penned your book of faith were more than likely Christians in the first place, as the Arabs of that time where illiterate. Further still, the authors of your book of faith clearly state that they merely copied the previous Biblical scriptures, and translated them into Arabic. Thus…as it were…Christians have more right to pursue the understanding of the Islamic Koran than the Muslims who purport to follow it… Additionally, when it is discovered that the Koran proclaims Jesus as God Almighty – then, yes, we can see first hand just how Islam has grotesquely contorted what was originally penned.
This ayah is about Jesus at the Throne. Period. This demonstrates the plurality at the Throne – same as declared in the Book of Revelation – from whence it was copied from.
The messenger is Jesus. There is no doubt. None. Summary of 81.19 • Revelation tells us that the “logos”, or Word, of God, is Jesus • 81.19 begins by informing us of something that is “inna”, or certain • This thing that is certain is applied to “qawlu”, or Word, via the personal pronoun “hu”, or His, and possessive affirmative particle “la” – thus giving the Word as an inherent attribute of Him • “laqawlu” occurs three times in the Koran, and in each occurrence it is beyond any reasonable doubt that it directly refers to Jesus • 81.19 also informs us that His Word is a “kareemin”, or holy, “rasoolin”, or message • Sura 81 acknowledges Jesus as the Word of God Do your research. “laqawlu” is used two other times in your book of faith (69.40 & 86.13). Observe that 69.40 is an exact replica of 81.19… 69.40 Innahu laqawlu rasoolin kareemin In context: • Certainly His Word is a Holy message…69.40 • And He is not a poet’s saying…69.41 • And nor a soothsayer….69.42 • The Revelation, or “tanzeelun”, from the Lord of the jinn, or genii, and of mankind 86.13 Innahu laqawlun faslun In context: • And/by the clouds He returned…86.11 • And/by the Earth that of the splitting…86.12 • Certainly His Word (is) Judgment…86.13 • And He is not on account of the vain…86.14 Had you taken your own advice, then you would have seen (from your very own book of faith), that the contextual usage of “laqawlun” directly mentions the Book of Revelation and Him coming with the clouds….exactly as Revelation describes Jesus! Wake up. Further, had you taken the time to exegete the ayahs leading up to the ones in question, then you would have discovered that they list the events that transpire when Jesus opens the Seals as described in the Book of Revelation. Thus, it is beyond any reasonable doubt that sura 81 also directly pertains to Jesus.
Let’s review… Summary of 81.21 • Revelation tells us that Jesus not only occupies the Throne of God, but that He is “lat reuo”, or served, as well as “aineo”, or praised, and “proskuneo”, or worshiped , and “phobeo”, or feared as God, as well • 81.21 continues with 81.20 by informing us that His Word (i.e. Jesus) not only occupies the Throne of God, but that He is “mutaAAin” (singular), or the “obeyed one” – that He is entitled to be obeyed • A survey of the Koran yields 37 ayahs that mention that both allah and his messenger (i.e. Jesus) are to be obeyed • Hence, the proclamation in 81.21 of a singular obeying at the throne is to be expected • Revelation describes the worshiping of God on the Throne with the added suffix of “Amen” • Interestingly, 81.21 also follows suit by adding its own “ameenin”, or Amen • Revelation also describes the worshiping of God on the Throne with the added suffix of “allelouia”, or praise ye Lord • “Ameenin”, in 81.21, can also mean “O’Lord”, as it is one of the names of God – thus adding additional support to Jesus being God Almighty Summary of 81.22 • Revelation Informs us that John was signified to receive the Revelation of Jesus Christ • John, when speaking of himself, uses the genitive case personal pronoun “humon”, or your, in conjunction to “sugkoinonos”, or companion, of Jesus Christ • John is “your companion” • John is the companion of Jesus Christ • 81.22 couples to 81.21 (which just finished informing us that the Lamb, who occupies the Throne, is obeyed there as God), via the copulative conjunction “wa” • 81.22 then goes on to inform us of “sahibukum”, or your companion (i.e. John); identical to Revelation • The “companion”, spoken of in 81.22, is in relation to the “obeyed one” (i.e. the Lamb) who occupies the throne, as demonstrated in 81.20 & 81.21 • “Sahibukum” occurs twice in the Koran, in sura 81 & in sura 53 (sura 81 near the end & sura 53 at the beginning); in both cases it is directly referencing the author of Revelation, John – which is unmistakable by the material contained within the sura itself • It is interesting that in both of these cases, the authors of the Koran make a special note to tell the reader that he is in his right mind – yet another confirmation to the validity of the Book of Revelation material • The authors of the Koran hold high regard for the Biblical Book of Revelation, which is a message from Jesus Christ, as written down by John, His companion. The authors of the Koran even told us of their source. Summary of 81.23 • Revelation Informs us that John “eido”, or saw with his eyes, the mighty angel coming down out of the “ouranos”, or heaven • 81.23, which is a continuation of 81.22 via the copulative conjunction “wa”(and), informs us of what “raa”, or, he saw – as referring to John • 81.23 informs us that His (i.e. the Lamb’s) companion (i.e. John) saw “hu”, or him (i.e. the Mighty Angel) • He saw him • Parallel statements exist in sura 53 regarding what the companion (i.e. John) sees • 81.23 identifies this sighting as “bi”, on account of “alofuqi”, or the heavens - just as stated in Revelation • 81.23 ends with the proclamation of “almubeeni” which means “distinct, as though separate from others; and thus, apparent, manifest, evident, clear, plain, or perspicuous • Amazingly, every single Koranic occurrence of “almubeeni” is direct reference to “kitabi” • “Kitabi is defined as “the written Revelation from above” • The significance of this cannot be overlooked as the authors of the Koran are telling us of the utmost importance of the written and revealed scripture(s) that existed before the Koran was even penned – and, of which, was the archetype of the Koranic opus itself
It is Jesus. John is “your companion”.
Open your eyes and read the text… وَلَقَدْ رَءاهُ بِالْأُفُقِ الْمُبِينِ Walaqad raahu bialofuqi almubeeni 81.23 And certainly he saw him on account of the heavens, the perspicuous. Please tell us that you see “wa” (AND) at the beginning of this ayah… :roll: Oh brother… :roll:
Dead wrong. It refers to Jesus, as already demonstrated.
Dead wrong again. Islam’s “prophet” occupies the Throne with God?! It refers to Jesus, as already demonstrated. Dead wrong again. It refers to Jesus, as already demonstrated.
Dead wrong again. It refers to Jesus, as already demonstrated. You cannot shoe-horn your “prophet” into this sura. He is never mentioned at all. Period. This sura revolves around proclaiming Jesus as God Almighty.
You have just demonstrated that tafsirs are a complete and utter waste of time. They are little more than the authors unreferenced opinion on the ayahs in question. Where are the resources that the authors used for their tafsirs? They are non-existent. Ever wonder why they do not reference their sources…?
Be honest with yourself and start some serious study of the book that you are entrusting your eternal soul towards. As of right now, Islam has you totally under its control and you are blind to see that sura 81 has zero to do with your so called “prophet”….but has everything to do with the Biblical Jesus as portrayed as God Almighty. Obey your Koran… |
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