Christian/Muslim ThreadsJesus intercedes?!? :: Re: duh!!Re: duh!!
Abdallah wrote:Thank you for what
Thanks for the answers that christians might give..
This forum letting you make idiotic findings of Biblical verses that you take out of context since you don't read the entire chapter?
I do not know Why you replied...
I simply ask a question..This question is hard I think....
The verses I showed are not "out of context" I wrote ENTIRE verse...
Does anyone have answer?
Tell you what abdallah we will make a deal you will answer one question of mine and I will answer yours? deal? see we have noticed you come to these forums and make different names never answering any questions and copying and pasting ad nauseum from already refuted material. So answer this question of mine for me and I will answer yours a discussion goes both ways not one answering and the other ignoring any questions and copy and pasting (I know the islamic mentality is that the kaffir is beneath them and are dogs and does not deserve a reply, but your mullahs sheikhs and imams are telling you this so you don't question anything because if you do, you will leave islam because it is madness)
So my question:
According to the most stringent clinical definition of paedophilia, DSM-IV-TR,
Diagnostic criteria for 302.2 Pedophilia
1.Over a period of at least six months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviours involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).
Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 235:
Narrated 'Aisha:
"...the Prophet said to her (Aisha), 'You have been shown to me twice in my dream. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and someone said (to me). 'This is your wife.' When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, 'If this is from Allah, it will be done.'"
2.The person has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies caused marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.
Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:
Narrated 'Aisha:
"that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' ".
As for the prophet, may Allah be pleased with him, thighing his fiancée Aisha, when she was six years of age and not able to consummate the relationship due to her small age. That is why the prophet used to place HIS MALE MEMBER BETWEEN HER THIGHS AND MASSAGE IT SOFTLY, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men. (Source: http://www.sout-al-haqe.com/pal/musical/mofakhaza.ram) x
Narrated Abu Usaid:
We went out with the Prophet to a garden called Ash-Shaut till we reached two walls between which we sat down. The Prophet said, "Sit here," and went in (the garden). The Jauniyya (a lady from Bani Jaun) had been brought and lodged in a house in a date-palm garden in the home of Umaima bint An-Nu'man bin Sharahil, and her wet nurse was with her. When the Prophet entered upon her, he said to her, "Give me yourself (in marriage) as a gift." She said, "Can a princess give herself in marriage to an ordinary man?" The Prophet raised his hand to pat her so that she might become tranquil. She said, "I seek refuge with Allah from you." He said, "You have sought refuge with One Who gives refuge. Then the Prophet came out to us and said, "O Abu Usaid! Give her two white linen dresses to wear and let her go back to her family." Narrated Sahl and Abu Usaid: The Prophet married Umaima bint Sharahil, and when she was brought to him, he stretched his hand towards her. It seemed that she disliked that, whereupon the Prophet ordered Abu Usaid to prepare her and to provide her with two white linen dresses. (See Hadith No. 541). Sahih Bukhari 7:63:182 Which mature princess has a wet nurse? no muslim has yet showed me what was so innocent about this whole debacle
3.The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.
Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151:
Narrated 'Aisha:
" I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.)"
Here is a list of Muslim countries and their ages of female consent:
http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm
Brunei 14; Egypt 18; Indonesia 17; Iran 14; Iraq 18; Jordan 16; Lebanon 15; Malaysia 16; Morocco 15; Syria 13; Tunisia 20; Turkey 15; UAE 18; Uzbekistan 16.
So you see, Muhammad would be prosecuted for child sex abuse (in one form or another) in these Muslim countries. Cultural relativism is not acceptable for a man whose followers claim is the perfect example of man for all time – which means his deeds must transcend both cultural and temporal boundaries. It might have been okay in the 7th century to have sex with 9-year-olds but not in the 21st century and beyond. Why judge him by modern standards? Because his followers ask him to be: they claim that he is the example of the perfect human being FOR ALL TIME. PS: Allah should have foreseen how much embarrassment this marriage would cause Muhammad and stopped it.
So my question: Why do you believe a pedophile is speaking on behalf of God? Does Mohammed's pedophilia not contradict what our God given logic is of right and wrong? Don't we believe God is good and just and would do things that is good and just for humanity? what is the benefit of allowing sex between a 60 yr old man and a 9 yr old girl?, it is because of this man's behaviour that fistulla vestulla is on the rampage in islamic african countries trying to emulate Mohammed where little pre-puberty girls are given in marriage become pregnant and obviously are unable to conceive as their bodies have not developed yet, leading to uncontrollable leakage of urine from their private part, why do you think a man who instigated this was speaking on behalf of God?
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