Christian/Muslim ThreadsLucifers Pride!I will only beleive in the ONly beggoten son of god if you explain to me how god got his only begotten son? #
With regards to term "the Son of God" What doe it mean? Does it mean that God Almighty had a sexual encounter with Mary to beget Jesus, or does it mean that God created Jesus with a miracle?
Christian use the term "the Only Begotten Son of God". What do you mean by the statement? If I say David is "the Only Begotten Son of Ali" how would you understand this? I am sure that you will understand it to mean that Ali have performed a sexual act to get the only begotten son, David. So when the Christian say "the only begotten Son of God" that means God performed a sexual act with Marry to have his only begotten, Jesus. Which is blasphemy against God.
Jehovah’s Witnesses in one of their publication "The guidance of God. Our Way to Paradise". Give their account of belief in "Son of God", the author of that booklet try’s to persuade the Muslims that the term "Son of God" is to be understood figuratively not literally. I have no problem accepting this, but the Bible passage ("the Only Begotten Son of God") in question does not agree with the figurative meaning, it imposes the literal meaning of the Christian perspective. The early Christians also understood this passage in its literal meaning.
So what does this term really mean? To answer these questions we will have to analyze the entire Bible and see if we can arrive at a different understanding of this phrase "Son-of-God". The term Son-Of-God can have various meanings, but the one understood by the Christians is in the Context of this phrase "the only begotten Son-of-God". If I am correct then it was Saint Jerome who is the first person to use the term "Only begotten Son-of-God" in his translation of the Bible from Hebrew to Greek. And since then this term has become a standard expression in every Christians Doctrine. The Greek term for "Begotten" in the ancient Greek is "gennao {ghen-nah-o} as found in Matthew 1:2. In verses under consideration, the word used is not "gennao", instead "monogenes" {mon-og-en-ace}. It is a Greek word which conveys the meaning "Unique" and not "begotten". Thus the correct meaning would be that Jesus the "Unique Son". Meaning that he is the only one of that kind, and every Christian knows that birth of Jesus was a result of a miracle performed by God.
Many Christians still will insist that Jesus is the only literal Son of God, yet the bible does not support such beliefs. So here is a short introduction to SONS OF GOD: The Bible ascribes sons by the tons to God. (a) 'Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the SON OF GOD." LUKE 3:38 (b) "That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took wives of all which they chose. ". . When the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." GENESIS 6:2 and 4 (c) ". Thus- saith the Lord, Israel is MY SON even my FIRSTBORN." EXODUS 4:22 (d) ". And Ephraim is my FIRSTBORN," JEREMIAH 31:9 (e) ". Thou (o David) ART MY SON; this day have I (God) BEGOTTEN thee. " PSALMS 2:7 (TONS A ton is 2000 lbs. weight, that is about a thousand kilograms.) ("FIRST BORN:" How can there be two "firstborns"?) ("BEGOTTEN" How can God beget David at the age of forty? "This day'?) (f) "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the SONS OF GOD. ' ROMANS 8:14
Now you have the "Sons by the Tons" will you not include these "Sons" in your Doctrine of Trinity? If you believe that Jesus was the Only Son of God then you were wrong.
Finally the conclusion we arrive is that the term Son-of-God is to be understood figuratively and not literally, has it I understood by many Christians. The JW have the correct belief about this terminology, their failure lays in the fact that they insist that the term "Only begotten Son-of-God" is authentic otherwise they are on the right path.
"They say: "God hath begotten a son!" - Glory be to Him! He is self- sufficient! His are all things in the heavens and on earth! No warrant have ye for this! Say ye about God what ye know not? Say: "Those who invent a lie against God will never prosper." A little enjoyment in this world! - And then, to us will be their return, then shall we make them taste the severest penalty for their blasphemies. "
If Jesus was beggoten then he cant be god one part of the God in trinity because according to the Chirstian creed Jesus was all ways with the father, but then you say he was the only "begotten son of god" then he was begotten by God, so he is not equal to God.
For a detailed exposition of the blasphimes trinity please reffer to this link: http://www.jesus-christ-forums.com/home/viewtopic.php?t=1401
Was-salam
Ali
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