Homosexual Discussion ForumBisexualityI agree that homosexuality is not pathological since homosexuality is not a disease. However homosexual behavior can be pathological in the same sense as alcoholism, gambling addiction, sexual addiction, and/or any other treatable condition that is labeled pathological in psychiatric terms. So homosexuality can be both a pathology and not pathological. As to my statement concerning the number of ex-gays in our society, since not all men, women, and teens who have dealt with this condition have ever come out you cannot dispute that teens with ego dystonic homosexuality did come to terms with their heterosexual identity and are in fact ex-gay. The millions might be an over statement but if only 3% of the 3% who are gblt in the U.S. are ex-gay there comes to about 235,000. Your opinions concerning when a person should come out is only your opinion. I have a different opinion backed up my emails and prior research. As to reparative therapy, that is not the only form ex-gay counseling can take. And in spite of your bigoted refusal to accept that ex-gays do exist you should read something besides those who support your position and who refuse to admit that homosexuality is not genetic and therefore is not innate or immutable. You might like to check out this page on Dr. Throckmorton’s site: What is reparative therapy? Camperio-Ciani’s study concluded: Do you know what it takes to show how a gene affects an individual? Check out this Internet site: http://www.leaderu.com/jhs/satinover.html A gay supporter posted the Camperio-Ciani’s study as proof that homosexuality is genetic, only he failed to read the whole study. You are not the first gay to insist that sexual orientation cannot be changed. As to what you have posted concerning ex-gays, it is nothing but hateful rhetoric that you cannot prove, and all of it is based on the pronouncement of a professional organization that allowed activists and politics to influence their decision and the “testimonies” of ex-ex-gays who did not reach their stated goals. Now, you have not furnished any empirical information that homosexuality is innate. All you have done is object to the ex-gay movement with unproven rhetoric from biased sources. If homosexuality is not genetic then it is not innate. Even personality that has a genetic component is not cut in stone. People can change their personality, which is one aspect of changing sexual orientation. I have already covered your first point by appealing to the APA’s definition of pathological behavior. So if any group is contradicting itself it is the APA. |
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