Religious Cults & False Prophets~ Discussions and DebatesDistinct PersonsHere is what both of you fail to realize, and as for me I have no problem HUMBLY SUBMITTING to the Truth, as a matter of fact I have, and that TRUTH is found within Scriptures if one is willing to understand with their hearts. Furthermore one should be cautious in attempting to discerns ones reason as to why they do not submit to the Truth, whether it be lack of humility or lack of understanding, or both.
How ironic you would choose a verse that absolutely describes the Father as the "One God", - not the Father AND Son. The preceeding passage declares there are "many lords and gods" (pagan) and then assigns the Father to the category of "God" and Christ to the category of "Lord", and doesn't even mention the Holy Spirit. This verse is perhaps THE most direct address of the Godhead issue in scripture, and the fact is, if you are as honest as you claim to be in searching for the truth, you will have to admit that a TRINITARIAN would NEVER have offered such a description as this. Because these 3 persons are eternal, they must be the same God? As much as you despise logic, I would ask what kind of logic are you using here? Do you disdain only GOOD logic? What is wrong with the proposition that there could be 3 Gods who never had a beginning? What does eternality or non-eternality have to do with whether it takes more than one divine person to constitute a God? Here's my definition of a "person" (let me know if you have a different definition) - "a self-aware, morally and emotionally cognizant entity, possessing the level of intelligence of a human being or greater" Now, take such a person and imagine that he is eternal, all-knowing, all-powerful, etc. Now, imagine ANOTHER such person, equal to the first, but NOT THE SAME PERSON. How many Gods is that? Remember, both are DEITY, and they ARE NOT ONE ANOTHER. There is your "key" - as soon as you say they are not the same one you have more than one deity. |
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