Quran and Bible debateKoran confirms Jesus Crucifixion...
Lets put your Arabic skills to the test. Prove to all the Christians here that you got the skills in the Arabic language. If you have any trouble you might want to call on the ghostly Spirit from your G-D. Lets see. Surah 86:3 also mentions "NAJM" or "ANNAJM" . So I guess this is a Star/Planet associated with your propaganda of those other verses you quoted that you so nicely left out which is nothing more than your off the wall drunk illusions of refering to Jesus according to your interpretation. So why didnt you include 86:3 in your list of Quranic quotes of the use of the word ? Let clearify for some of the people." The "A" in "Annajam" is the assimulated definite Article "al" or "the" (That Apple so lovely and over exaustively defined with exagerated effort not knowing when "al" in a subject manner applied to such meanings he fathomed, its meaning is determined on the context, which is less of the case) in which the "L" is silent doubling the "N" in Najm (Star) as "Annajm" when pronounced meaning "The Star" Omar's Dictionary states starting with the root : Edward Lane Lexic. states also:
NO WHERE IS THERE A MENTION OF A PLANET DEFINITION ! Funny you didnt mention about the meaning of "Najm" as also meaning a "shrub, grass, or root of a tree"
Is that right ? The verb root is salaba or saliba meaning "To crucify or to make hard, firm, or sturdy. " Salb means "To crucify" and Sulb means "Backbone". They are two different words having two different use of applications.
Omar that you quoted gave two different meanings as you made them the same meaning. Also Omar limited the root meaning. Now lets see what our friend Edward Lane say about the root:
He then defines Salb as to kill by crucifying someone but NO WHERE IS SULB associated with this word SALB in any of their works. Edward States Sulb as:
Here we go again, The Christian Edward Lane even QUOTES Surah 86:7 where "Sulb" is used to mean "Backbone or Loins" that you so wantonly try to change its meaning:
The same Arab Christian source that you are using does not confirm that "Sulb" or "Assulb" in 86:7 means crucify which is a whole different word in the Arabic language called "Salb" not "Sulb". Whereas their root also has diversified meanings also.
Yea sure, We are wondering when you are going to wake up and stop dreaming. You having a horrible nightmare.
I would advise one of the Christians in the room to slap your brother and hit him with a good dash of H2O for him to wake up. He is having a bad case of "Wishfull Thinking" just like his side kick Liberate running around here @ Liberate. Lets look at your wishful thinking here. Maybe you couldnt find the word cause you dont know how to properly use it yet. "waalttara-ibi" Let clearify this. "wa" is the conjuction generally meaning "and/while". We have already went over and abuse the poor word "al" so we are sure that everyone knows now what "al" commonly means in the arabic language. If you didnt, you failed . Anyhow for the rest of your nuckle head out there it is the definite article "the" in most application depending on the contect and its usage in Arabic. So now we are left with the actual word it self " Taraa'ib" and what does it mean ? Of course here we go again with Apple saying it means "ressurection" making a laughing stock of himself. Please everyone look at this context.
We already established that teh word "MAN" is from the Arabic word "al-insaan" which is dual literally meaning "the two human being" refering to the two genders of male and female. The verse explains that MAN (Male and female) is created from a water/fluid coming from between Assulb and Attaraa'ib. The verse is talking about the creation of Man (Dual) and he is coming up with this mumbo jumbo criss cross Alabama BLACK ghetto (if you get what I mean ) back flip whishful thinking comatose talk. Lets look at your sources and what they say. Lets see if you "sewing your own meaning together" Omar States starting with the root in which Apple couldnt find and then made guesses, maybe cause the Ghostly Spirit told him : What does our Christian budy Edward lane say ? Do you see anything there refered to a ressurection ? Please look very good you have the books. O Boy ! Now we got you went off the wall here now. Wow ! Would you look at that ! So if "him" is refering to Jesus it also stated he will have no power nor helper in verse 10. "rajAAihi" <~~~ The Arabic doesnt read that, where did you get that from ? The Arabic reads "raj'ihi" which means " bring him back". Him is refering back to al-insan = Man or Mankind ie male and female as a whole. Which I said before: You been stumped on like a worm. Go learn some Arabic. Wow you should come out with a fiction book called "Tafsir Apple Pie With Sauce". Now your a Christian who is trying to re-interpretate the Quran, changing meaning even trying to event your own grammar and word meanings.
Do you see our Prophets name mentioned in those verses ? No. But who is it talking to in the singular address ? Of course in english ya cant tell if "you" is plural or singular. However in Arabic you can, and in those sample verses above they are addressed in the singular. I think the line is drawn here between you and us on this issue that you have maliciously misrepressented with you own methods of manipulating the Arabic of the Quran to your own benefit when you dont even know a word of Arabic nor do you know how to speak the language or understand its parts of speach. -----------------------------------------THE END----------------------------------- |
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