Quran and Bible debateKoran confirms Jesus Crucifixion...Greetings Phiz, That is the analogy given… Agreed…and yet, it is indeed applied to Him in the Holy Bible… Correct, from the Book of Revelation… Well…answer me this…How many entities do you know that simultaneously satisfy all THREE definitions of “alttariqi”…? There is only ONE that fits the bill…Jesus…
Well…if you read only the “popular” English renditions, and totally ignore the “original” Arabic, then yes, you will come away with a completely camouflaged rendering. However, let’s take a look at the Arabic of 86.7 & 86.8 and discover the mind-blowing truth of the matter… Ready…? يَخْرُجُ مِنْ بَيْنِ الصُّلْبِ وَالتَّرَائِبِ 86.7 Yakhruju min bayni alssulbi waalttara-ibi صُّلْبِ = “ssulbi” “ssulbi” definition: “alssulbi” in prayer means the placing the hands upon the flanks, in standing, and separating the arms from the body; a posture forbidden by the prophet because resembling that of a man when he is crucified. Backbone; Loins; Spine. Signifies also ichor, or watery humor, mixed with blood, that flows from the dead. A cross; a certain thing pertaining to Christians, which they take as an object to which to direct the face in prayer. It comes from the root “salaba”, which means he crucified him; to put to death in a certain well known manner; extract marrow from bones. References: An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume four, pp. 1711 - 1713 The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, p. 318 The Koran, Complete Dictionary & Literal Translation, Mohamed Ahmed, p. 71 The root, along with its six derivatives, occurs 7 times within the pages of the Koran. Reading each Koranic occurrence, in context, shows that the root, and all derivatives of the root, refers directly to a Crucifixion event: 4.157; 5.33; 7.124 12.41; 20.71; 26.49 Thus, we can clearly see that the Arabic shows this to be a Crucifixion event… Next… يَخْرُجُ مِنْ بَيْنِ الصُّلْبِ وَالتَّرَائِبِ 86.7 Yakhruju min bayni alssulbi waalttara-ibi تَّرَائِبِ = “ttara-ibi” “ttara-ibi” definition: General noun from which is formed neither dual nor plural. One born at the same time with thee; a contemporary in birth; an equal in age; an equal; a match; a fellow; a peer; applied to a male and a female. A cemetery, burial place, or place of graves or of a grave. Breast bone; Upper part of girls chest; the rib bones. It comes from the root “tariba”, which means it (a thing) became dusted, or dusty; dust lighted upon it; it (a place) had much dust or earth; abounded with dust or earth. He (a man) had dust, or earth, in his hand; he clave to the dust or earth; or he clave to the dust or earth, by reason of poverty; he became so poor that he clave to the dust, or earth; and he suffered loss and became poor so that he clave to the dust, or earth; to have much earth, be full of earth, have dust in his hands, be destitute. References: An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume one, pp. 300 - 301 The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, pp. 74 The Koran, Complete Dictionary & Literal Translation, Mohamed Ahmed, p. 55 The root, along with four of its derivatives, occurs 22 times within the pages of the Koran. Reading each Koranic occurrence, in context, shows that the root, and all derivatives of the root, refer directly to a Resurrection event: 2.264; 3.59; 13.5 16.59; 18.37; 22.5 23.35; 23.82; 26.67 30.20; 35.11; 37.16 37.53; 38.52; 40.67 50.3; 56.37; 56.47 78.33; 78.40; 90.16 Thus, we can clearly see that the Arabic shows this to be a Resurrection event… Next… إِنَّهُ عَلَى رَجْعِهِ لَقَادِرٌ 86.8 Innahu AAala rajAAihi laqadirun رَجْعِهِ = “rajAAihi” “rajAAihi” definition: Masculine singular. A return; a single act of returning, of going back, of coming back, or reverting; the act of returning. The returning to the present state of existence after death. It comes from the root “raja’a”, which means to return, turn back, turn off, upon anyone, come back, repeat, answer, bring answer, be brought back. References: An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume three, pp. 1037 - 1042 The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, pp. 202 - 203 “rajAAihi” only occurs this one time in the entire Koran, and refers specifically to the single Resurrection of a man…..! The root “raja’a” and 20 of its derivatives occurs 104 times total in the Koran. In each and every case, that it refers to a Resurrection event, its context is in the plural. Thus, we can clearly see that the Arabic shows this to be a SINGULAR Resurrection event involving ONE man… Next… إِنَّهُ عَلَى رَجْعِهِ لَقَادِرٌ 86.8 Innahu AAala rajAAihi laqadirun َقَادِرٌ = “qadirun” “qadirun” definition: Applied to God. Decreeing, appointing, ordaining, deciding; possessing power or ability. An epithet applied only to God. It comes from the root, “qadara”, which means a magnifying or honoring; or have not assigned to God the attributes that are due to Him; or have not known what God is in reality. He assigned, or appointed a particular time for it. He empowered him; enabled him; rendered him able. Signifies a particular decree of God, as that a certain man shall die at a particular time and place; or particular predestination. Be able to do, have the power over, prevail, measure to an exact nicety, estimate exactly, be sparing, determine, decree, grown, arrange, prepare, a lot, devise, dispose, appreciate, honor, assign, know, understand, straighten, restrict. References: An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume seven, pp. 2494 - 2496 The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, pp. 444 - 445 Thus, we can clearly see that the Arabic shows the Resurrection event to be an attribute that is rightfully due to God, alone. This is the reality of God… Let’s summarize these two monumental ayahs… 1) A Crucifixion event occurs with ONE man. 2) The event takes place on a cross. 3) Ichor flows upon death. 4) He is Resurrected, alone. 5) He is returned to the present state of existence after death. 6) They have not assigned to God the attributes that are due to Him; or have not known what God is in reality. 7) The Resurrected man is God. So….I have to ask…..can it really get much clearer for you than these two ayahs….? These two ayahs, all by themselves, totally decimate Muslim ideology…..and I mean totally and completely annihilate what they have been taught ever since they were knee high to a grasshopper… I think that now you understand where I am coming from…… No problem…the best way to strengthen my exegesis is through rigorous testing… You will not offend me by whatever is on your mind…I hope that I likewise will not offend you… What exactly would you do, if indeed I am correct….? We can pursue this after we are finished discussing Sura 86….. Thanks… |
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