Servryn wrote:lol H20, I am surprised I read some of your insane arguments and thought you were going to start your mindless dribble. By the way I am doing some great Quoran VS. Mein Kamf research ideology is nearly identical it scares the hell out of me.
And here is the answer for that, very plainly explained.
[10.47] And every nation had an Messenger; so when their Messenger came, the matter was decided between them with justice and they shall not be dealt with unjustly
[16.36] And certainly We raised in every nation a messenger saying: Serve Allah and shun the Shaitan. So there were some of them whom Allah guided and there were others against whom error was due; therefore travel in the land, then see what was the.end of the rejecters.
[16.63] By Allah, most certainly We sent (Messengers) to nations before you (Muhammad), but the Shaitan made their deeds fair-seeming to them, so he is their guardian today, and they shall have a painful punishment.
[22.34] And to every nation We appointed acts of devotion that they may mention the name of Allah on what He has given them of the cattle quadrupeds; so your God is One God, therefore to Him should you submit, and give good news to the humble,
[22.67] To every nation We appointed acts of devotion which they observe, therefore they should not dispute with you about the matter and call to your Lord; most surely you are on a right way.
[40.5] The people of Nuh and the parties after them rejected (prophets) before them, and every nation purposed against their Messengers to destroy him, and they disputed by means of the falsehood that they might thereby render null the truth, therefore I(Allah) destroyed them; how was then My retribution!
All prophets of G-D brought the same message. We can explain these parallels and simularities as all of those religions
originally were revealed by G-D in their pure and uncurrupted form. Unlike for Chrstianity you cannot, as you do not believe that G-D sent prophets to all nations of people other than to the Jews.
What is the foundation of Islam ? This is what you all should be attacking. The concept of G-D as explained is the Quran is remote from all other religions as other religion including Christianity pose G-D to be some sort of man figure.
You can look for all your parallels you want. We would agree with what you call pagan as long as it does not contradict The Quran. If it does then it is PAGAN for sure and will be rejected. For us, as long as those teaching and the Bible do not contradict the Quran, then those sayings are true that was originally revealed by G-D through the prophets who were sent to such people.
I find it futile for you to study such a thing in your effort to use it against us when we would agree if it conforms with the Quran. If you find a parallel, for us those men were indeed prophets but later their people currupted the original divine messege that was revealed an only fragments of the divine message have survived.
[4.164] And (We sent) Messengers We have mentioned to you(Muhammad) before and Messengers we have not mentioned to you; and to Musa, Allah addressed His Word, speaking (to him):
[40.78] And certainly We sent Messengers before you(Muhammad): there are some of them that We have mentioned to you and there are others whom We have not mentioned to you, and it was not meet for a Messenger that he should bring a sign except with Allah's permission, but when the command of Allah came, judgment was given with truth, and those who treated (it) as a lie were lost.
Your home work will just help us to confirm if those men in the past that brought those teachings to their people were prophets or not. So you not doing anything against us your helping us and the unbiased minds that are seeking for truth.
Newseed wrote:H2O: If you too would read the forum rules you would see that we cannot always catch the culprits breaking forum rules. However, you are right to point out those in question
No problemo ! 8) . I guess I would have to be Cyber cop then to help