Helix wrote:Aineo wrote:I did not check out the site on Cain's wife.
Too bad. Maybe you should. It states some very disturbing misconceptions of genetics (namely: sins are responsible for causing genetic defects in inbreading). It is yet another example of an intricate story, JUST to proof that a section of the bible is true. I find it equally disturbing that everyone seems to blindly accept these theories about inbreading, and can get away with sentences like 'Unfortunately, genes today contain many mistakes (because of sin and the Curse)'.
Click here to sea it in the original context
Aineo wrote: Science opines that the earth was encased in a vapor canopy in the distant past. Ferns have been found in glaciers. Science also opines that all the land on the earth was once one continent science has named Pangea. (The Bible states God gathered the waters in one place and the land in one place. Science and the Bible agree.)
"Science and Bible agree" is a very general conclusion to your text! Yes, christians believe in a single continent, and science has proven that the continents were unitied once. This is where the comparison stops!
"During the Triassic period (about 248-208 million years ago), the first phase of the Mesozoic Era, all lands formed one supercontinent known as Pangeae ("all earth"). The northern parth is called Laurasia, the southern Gondwana."
source This is what science holds true. According to the bible, the supercontinent existed as little as 6000 years ago!
About the vapor canopy, read this:
"Vapor canopy. This model, proposed by Whitcomb & Morris and others, proposes that much of the Flood water was suspended overhead until the 40 days of rain which caused the Flood. The following objections are covered in more detail by Brown.
* How was the water suspended, and what caused it to fall all at once when it did?
* If a canopy holding the equivalent to more than 40 feet of water were part of the atmosphere, it would raise the atmospheric pressure accordingly, raising oxygen and nitrogen levels to toxic levels.
* If the canopy began as vapor, any water from it would be superheated. This scenario essentially starts with most of the Flood waters boiled off. Noah and company would be poached. If the water began as ice in orbit, the gravitational potential energy would likewise raise the temperature past boiling.
* A canopy of any significant thickness would have blocked a great deal of light, lowering the temperature of the earth greatly before the Flood.
* Any water above the ozone layer would not be shielded from ultraviolet light, and the light would break apart the water molecules." SOURCE You can also read on this page what is wrong with the hydro-plate theory.
Aineo wrote:Many Bible detractors seem to think that the flood had to be a miraculous event and not the result of natural forces. That is nothing more than ignoring what science can show.
/points to above text
Aineo wrote: Tuppence has posted a comprhensive discussion of the natural forces that could have resulted in the waters from the depths erupting, the resulting dust cloud could have entered the vapor canopy resulting in rain. Now tuppence uses more scientific terminology, but this is the essence of one possibility.
Then let's not discuss the deluge or Noah in this thread anymore. Let's focus on the text that 'explains' how the human population could have grown from two people. (Does anyone else find it strange that Adam and Eve could grow very old? 800 years or older... O right, god had given them 'perfect genes', whatever that means. It is not explained WHAT perect means when it comes to genes)
Aineo wrote: Another example of the stage being set on earth for a Biblical prophecy yet to be fulfilled is the Lord's return. We are told when Jesus' foot touches the Mount of Olives it will split. The upper limit of the great rift fault runs directly under the Mount of Olives.
Will he be wearing special super shoes, that split mountains?
Aineo wrote: Astronomers have been able to determine the acutal date of Jesus' birth using information from the Bible and the stars. By working back in time it can be shown Jesus was born September 11, 3 B.C. Now this is an interesting date that shocked and suprised some MIT scientists. Why? Well, Jews celebrate Tishri 1 as the first day of the year. Jews believe that Adam was created on this day. In 3 B.C. Tishri 1 corresponded to September 11 3 B.C. on the Julian calendar. Coincidence? I don't think that the first Adam was created and the second Adam (Jesus) being born on the same day is coincidence.
I am not impressed by numerology. I don't believe that comparing numbers and dates is a valid argument. It does not proof anything now does it?
Furthermore, Adam was a fictional character in a story. There was no 'first man' with 'perfect genes' (perfect, yet he sinned?) and no one has ever reached the age of 800. It quite amusing, if not a bit unsettling, that people that express such great knowedge and intellect do not dare to look at biblical stories from a more critical point of view.