Homosexual Discussion ForumHomosexuality if no God!Your opening statement does not make any sense, could you rephrase it? What do I have to do with your thesis? Another what/if thread that avoids reality is not going to prove your point. However, I will answer your questions using the real world and not your fantasy world. Since you seem to be directing this thread at me specifically I will answer you using how I treat people. The Bible is a textbook that teaches those who believe in God's moral plan for His people. Therefore any self-professed Christian who is also gay will be dealt with using Biblical truth. I have a good friend I first met in an ex-gay support group. He is now living with his male partner and has rejected God' truth. I still call him my friends and I still talk to him. He knows what I believe, but we do not let differing theologies interfere in our friendship. He was raised Catholic and attends Redeemer Lutheran in Houston. My oldest niece is living with her lesbian partner of 15 years. Neither of them are Christians and neither of them are interested in learning about Christianity. I love them both, I love both their children (which both had by artificial insemination), and I do not judge them for who they are, and they do not judge me based on my faith. My youngest brother was living with his partner when he died from complications of HIV/AIDS. I was living in Texas and flew to Hayward California for every vacation for 2 years before he died so we could spend time together, which means I stayed in his home with his partner. I even went to gay bars with him because he wanted his friends to meet his older brother. I don't judge gay people. Before I was forced out of my job due to my medical condition I flew to California once a year on business to visit 2 of our paperboard suppliers. Since these trips were business related my company picked up the tab. So I would fly into San Francisco on a Friday night, rent a car, and stay with my lesbian cousin, her gay nephew, and their partners (if they had one at the time) who live in the Castro district of San Francisco. On Monday morning I would then drive to make my appointment in Walnut Creek, drive to LA where I had another appointment the next day and then fly back to Houston. You can't get it through you head that I do not object to the gay community, I have gay friends and relatives I love and enjoy being around. I do not judge gay people. Now, you are posting to a Christian message board where God's truth is of paramount importance to us. You are posting to a forum where truth, not egalitarian concepts are shared with those seeking God's truth and where we debate those who hate us out of ignorance of what we believe. Now the "we" applies to me and this board. In case you have not noticed I have administrative authority over the entire message board, our moderators do not. You will also notice I am the "moderator" for this forum. I will publicly berate and take to task any so-called Christian who posts hate, bigotry, and prejudice to the exclusion of God's truth and I do not hesitate to delete any post made by a "Christian" that offends me, let alone our gay members and guests. I am more sensitive to derogatory slang being used on this message board than some of our gay members and visitors. My lesbian cousin uses the term "dyke" all the time. Have you ever heard of "Dykes on Bikes"? It is a Frisco area lesbian motorcycle club. I will not allow that term to be used here by any "Christian" since it is always used as derogatory slang. The way I live my life is 99% taught in Scripture. The 1% concerns my friendship with professed gay "Christians", which goes counter to 1 Cor 5:9ff. However, since gay relationships are historically unstable (that Netherland's study touches on this) I do not want to burn any bridges if I can be of assistance to my friend in the future. Now, have I made my personal position clear? Or do you want to call me a liar so you can continue to call me a "homophobe"? |
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