Helix wrote:Aineo wrote: Actually you are incorrect. The ancient Greeks did not believe the world was flat. Read some of Unconvinced's posts, he seems to have a better grasp of historical truth than you do.
ACTUALLY you are incorrect.
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www.ancient-greece.com wrote: Oceanus + Tethys - The personification of the vast ocean. Together with his wife Tethys, they produced the rivers and six thousand offsprings called the Oceanids. He ruled over Ocean,
a great river encircling the earth, which was believed to be a flat circle. The nymphs of this great river, the Oceanids, were their daughters, and the gods of all the streams on earth were their sons.
http://www.ancient-greece.com/html/mythology_frame.htm
Your source is site on mythology. Now can you find a source that deals with truth?
You talked about the Leviathan and the Behemoth. You suggested that they might have been 'Dinosaurs.' Too bad for you that I've been doing a bit of research on them... It seems far more likely(from descriptions and the writings of others who try to explain the bible), that the leviathan was most nothing more than a crocodile, and the behemoth a hippopotamus. (Which can both be found in the Nile - in Egypt)
The crocodile has remained unchanged for thousands of years. In your terminology the term "thousands of years" can be changed to "millions of years".
Aineo wrote: They built a scale model of the ark...
So? If I build a scale model of a spaceship, put it in water and conclude it doesn't leak, would I have designed a spece worthy vehicle? I can construct ships of PAPER that don't tip over when you put them in turbulent water. I see your point, but I'm trying to say: A scale model is something different than a REAL ship and behaves very differently! (But put a link to the page on here, and I'll have a look at it.)
You example is ludicrous. What sane man would test the reliability of a vehicle designed for space travel in water?
ALL new designs for ships, airplanes, and space craft used to exit and enter our atmosphere are tested in labs by those with the funds to do such testing.
Aineo wrote: Before the time of Noah animals were vegeterians.
Really? Strange how the teeth of lions are SO well equiped for eating flesh... Try to image a lion eating vegetation with those teeth! They can't chew it. Did they swallow plants whole and trust on their digestive system? And what use were those claws they have? I imagine chameleons used their tongue to 'catch' leaves of trees? Sorry for the sarcasm, but you can see how ridiculous this is, can't you?
An evolutionist is again denying evolution to establish his own theories. I have a toy poddle. He has teeth designed to rip and he has teeth designed to grind. You also have teeth designed to rip and death designed to grind. My cat has teeth designed to rip and grind.
Aineo wrote: If Talk Origins is your only source of information then I suggest you expand your horizens and read other scientific sources that are willing to seek truth.
Don't worry, Talk Origin is only one of many scientific links in my bookmarks. And I've got a bookcase full of useful books as well. Strange to hear this from a person who uses the bible as a reference point. Isn't that one source? You're blaming me for what you are doing yourself...
I also have books on science that can show evolution is false, that creation is true, that theoretical science is just that "theory". I also have books that argue in the other direction.
I find it an arrogant presumption that atheists think creationists believe what they believe on "faith" and ignore science. The ones who ignore science are the atheists whose personal opinions are more important to them than real science. The "faith" atheists put in their own opinions is no different than the "faith" informed and educated creationists put in both the Bible and science. The two are not mutually exclusive.