Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe False Prophet:The Author of the Quran!Hi Omega,
Omega: Failure in taking scripture as it is as it originally being understood by those who Follow and UNDERSTAND and Believe that the Bible is the infallable word of God.
So could those who follow and UNDERSTAND and believe that Bible is the infallable word of God, explain these discrepencies....
Geneology of Jesus
Jesus son of Joseph: Matt 1:16
Jesus son of Joseph: Luke 3:23
Joseph son of Jacob: Matt 1: 16
Jacob son of Matthan: Matt 1:15
Matthan son of Eleazar: Matt 1:15
Eleazar son of Eliud: Matt 1:15
Eliud son of Achim: Matt 1:14
Achim son of Sadoc: Matt 1:14
Sadoc son of Azor: Matt 1:14
Azor son of Eliakim: Matt 1:13
Eliakim son of Abiud: Matt 1:13
Abiud son of Zorobabel: Matt 1:13
Jacob son of Heli: Luke 3:23
Heli son of Matthat: Luke 3:24
Matthat son of Levi Luke 3:24
Levi son of Melchi, Luke 3:24
Melchi son of Janna, Luke 3:24
Janna son of Joseph, Luke 3:24
Joseph son of Mattathias, Luke 3:25
Mattathias son of Amos, Luke 3:25
Amos son of Naum, Luke 3:25
Naum son of Esli, Luke 3:25
Esli son of Nagge, Luke 3:25
Nagge son of Maath, Luke 3:26
Maath son of Mattathias, Luke 3:26
Matthathias son of Semei, Luke 3:26
Semie son of Joseph, Luke 3:26
Jospeh son of Juda, Luke 3:26
Juda son of Joanna, Luke 3:27
Joanna son of Rhesa, Luke 3:27
…. Note except for the names of Jacob son of Heli or Matthat none of names match.
Zorobabel son of Salathiel: Matt 1:12
Zorobabel son of Salathiel: Luke 3:27
Salathiel son of Jechonias: Matt 1:12
Jechonias son of Jochias: Matt 1:11
Jochias son of Amon: Matt 1:10
Amon son of Manasess: Matt 1:10
Manasess son of Ezekias: Matt 1:10
Ezekias son of Achaz: Matt 1:9
Achaz son of Jotham: Matt 1:9
Jotham son of Ozias: Matt 1:9
Ozias son of Joram: Matt 1:8
Joram son of Josaphat: Matt 1:8
Josaphat son of Asa: Matt 1:8
Asa son of Abia: Matt 1:8
Abia son of Roboam: Matt 1:7
Roboam son of Solomon: Matt 1:7
Salathiel son of Neri, Luke 3:27
Neri son of Melchi, Luke 3:28
Melchi son of Addi, Luke 3:28
Addi son of Cosam, Luke 3:28
Cosam son of Elmodam, Luke 3:28
Elmodam son of Er, Luke 3:28
Er son of Jose, Luke 3:29
Jose son of Eliezer, Luke 3:29
Eliezer son of Jorim, Luke 3:29
Jorim son of Matthat, Luke 3:29
Matthat son of Levi, Luke 3:29
Levi son of Simeon, Luke 3:30
Simeon son of Juda, Luke 3:30
Juda son of Joseph, Luke 3:30
Joseph son of Jonan, Luke 3:30
Jonan son of Eliakim, Luke 3:30
Eliakim son of Melea, Luke 3:31
Melea son of Menan, Luke 3:31
Menan son of Mattatha, Luke 3:31
Matthatha son of Nathan, Luke 3:31
Again note that none of names in Luke 3 match the list provided in Matthew.
Solomon son of David: Matt 1:6
Nathan which was the son of David, Luke 3:31
Was Jesus’s geneology through Solomon or Nathan?
David son of Jesse: Matt 1:6
David son of Jesse: Luke 3:32
In the entire two list there are only three things which comply with each other these are:
1) David son of Jesse
2) Zorobabel son of Salathiel
3) Jesus son of Joseph.
Rest everything in both the list is contradictory. These contradictionas are so many that I was not able to compare the two lists. All names except the three above are different, and ofcourse the number of generations is also wrong.
28 Contradictions between Joseph and Zorababel.
1 contradiction in number of generations between Jospeh and Zorababel, Matt: 10, Luke: 18
36 Contradictions between Zorababel and David.
1 contradiction in number of generations between David and Zorababel, Matt: 15, Luke: 21
In total, 66 Errors in 2 Chapters… And you say this from God…. And please dont bring the point out that one is geneology of Joseph and one is of Mary because both of these geneologies start with Joseph. By the way if you say one of these geneologies is errorneous than I would say that the Matthews one would be. As it contains name of Jechonias, some people say is the same Jehoi'akim who has been cursed by God in Jeremiah 22:30.
Some more mathemetical errors and other contradictions
The account of people who came back from exile because of King of Babylon Nebuchadnez'zar
Nehemiah 7 They came with Zerub'babel, Jeshua, Nehemi'ah, Azari'ah, Raami'ah, Naham'ani, Mor'decai, Bilshan, Mis'pereth, Bigva'i, Nehum, Ba'anah. The number of the men of the people of Israel: ( Nehemiah 7 Contradiction with Ezra 2, 4 names Missing, Contradictions 4)
Ezra 2 They came with Zerub'babel, Jeshua, Nehemi'ah, Serai'ah, Re-el-ai'ah, Mor'decai, Bilshan, Mispar, Bigva'i, Rehum, and Ba'anah. The number of the men of the people of Israel: (N7/E2… 3 Names Missing, Contradictions 3) Error Total 4+3=7
8 the sons of Parosh, two thousand a hundred and seventy-two.
3 the sons of Parosh, two thousand one hundred and seventy-two
9 The sons of Shephati'ah, three hundred and seventy-two.
The sons of Shephati'ah, three hundred and seventy-two.
10 The sons of Arah, six hundred and fifty-two.
7 The sons of Arah, seven hundred and seventy-five. (N7/E2, 652/775?) Error Total 8
11 The sons of Pa'hath-mo'ab, namely the sons of Jeshua and Jo'ab, two thousand eight hundred and eighteen.
6 The sons of Pa'hath-moab, namely the sons of Jeshua and Jo'ab, two thousand eight hundred and twelve. (N7/E2, 2818/2812?) Error Total 9
12 The sons of Elam, a thousand two hundred and fifty-four.
7 The sons of Elam, one thousand two hundred and fifty-four.
13 The sons of Zattu, eight hundred and forty-five.
8 The sons of Zattu, nine hundred and forty-five. (N7/E2, 845/945?) Error Total 10
14 The sons of Zac'cai, seven hundred and sixty.
9 The sons of Zac'cai, seven hundred and sixty.
15 The sons of Bin'nui, six hundred and forty-eight
10 The sons of Bani, six hundred and forty-two. (N7/E2, 648/642?) Error Total 11
16 The sons of Be'bai, six hundred and twenty-eight.
11 The sons of Be'bai, six hundred and twenty-three. (N7/E2, 628/623?) Error Total 12
17 The sons of Azgad, two thousand three hundred and twenty-two.
12 The sons of Azgad, one thousand two hundred and twenty-two. (N7/E2, 2322/1322) Error Total 13
18 The sons of Adoni'kam, six hundred and sixty-seven.
13 The sons of Adoni'kam, six hundred and sixty-six. (N7/E2, 667/666?) Error Total 14
19 The sons of Bigva'i, two thousand and sixty-seven.
14 The sons of Bigva'i, two thousand and fifty-six. (N7/E2, 2067/2056?) Error Total 15
20 The sons of Adin, six hundred and fifty-five.
15 The sons of Adin, four hundred and fifty-four.
21 The sons of Ater, namely of Hezeki'ah, ninety-eight.
16 The sons of Ater, namely of Hezeki'ah, ninety-eight.
22 The sons of Hashum, three hundred and twenty-eight.
19 The sons of Hashum, two hundred and twenty-three. (N7/E2, 328/223?) Error Total 16
23 The sons of Be'zai, three hundred and twenty-four.
17 The sons of Be'zai, three hundred and twenty-three. (N7/E2, 324/323?) Error Total 17
Nehemiah 24 The sons of Hariph, a hundred and twelve. (Missing in Ezra) Error Total 18
Ezra 18 The sons of Jorah, one hundred and twelve. (Missing in Nehemiah) Error Total 19
25 The sons of Gibeon, ninety-five.
20 The sons of Gibbar, ninety-five. (Sons of Gibbar or Gibbeon ) Error Total 20
26 The men of Bethlehem and Neto'phah, a hundred and eighty-eight.
21 The sons of Bethlehem, one hundred and twenty-three. 22 The men of Neto'phah, fifty-six. (123+56 = 179 and not 188 as mentioned in Nehemiah 26, 1 Calculation Error and 1 Contradiction) Error Total 22
27 The men of An'athoth, a hundred and twenty-eight.
23 The men of An'athoth, one hundred and twenty-eight.
28 The men of Beth-az'maveth, forty-two.
24 The sons of Az'maveth, forty-two.
29 The men of Kir'iath-je'arim, Chephi'rah, and Be-er'oth, seven hundred and forty-three.
25 The sons of Kir'iathar'im, Chephi'rah, and Be-er'oth, seven hundred and forty-three.
30 The men of Ramah and Geba, six hundred and twenty-one.
26 The sons of Ramah and Geba, six hundred and twenty-one.
31 The men of Michmas, a hundred and twenty-two.
27 The men of Michmas, one hundred and twenty-two.
32 The men of Bethel and Ai, a hundred and twenty-three.
28 The men of Bethel and Ai, two hundred and twenty-three. (N7/E2, 123/223?) Error Total 23
33 The men of the other Nebo, fifty-two.
29 The sons of Nebo, fifty-two.
Ezra 30 The sons of Magbish, one hundred and fifty-six. (Missing in Nehemiah) Error Total 24
34 The sons of the other Elam, a thousand two hundred and fifty-four.
31 The sons of the other Elam, one thousand two hundred and fifty-four.
35 The sons of Harim, three hundred and twenty.
32 The sons of Harim, three hundred and twenty.
36 The sons of Jericho, three hundred and forty-five.
34 The sons of Jericho, three hundred and forty-five.
37 The sons of Lod, Hadid, and Ono, seven hundred and twenty-one.
33 The sons of Lod, Hadid, and Ono, seven hundred and twenty-five. (N7/E2, 721/725?) Error Total 25
38 The sons of Sena'ah, three thousand nine hundred and thirty.
35 The sons of Sena'ah, three thousand six hundred and thirty. (N7/E2, 3930/3630?) Error Total 26
39 The priests: the sons of Jedai'ah, namely the house of Jeshua, nine hundred and seventy-three.
36 The priests: the sons of Jedai'ah, of the house of Jeshua, nine hundred and seventy-three.
40 The sons of Immer, a thousand and fifty-two.
37 The sons of Immer, one thousand and fifty-two.
41 The sons of Pashhur, a thousand two hundred and forty-seven.
38 The sons of Pashhur, one thousand two hundred and forty-seven.
42 The sons of Harim, a thousand and seventeen.
39 The sons of Harim, one thousand and seventeen.
43 The Levites: the sons of Jeshua, namely of Kad'mi-el of the sons of Ho'devah, seventy-four.
40 The Levites: the sons of Jeshua and Kad'mi-el, of the sons of Hodavi'ah, seventy-four.
44 The singers: the sons of Asaph, a hundred and forty-eight.
41 The singers: the sons of Asaph, one hundred and twenty-eight. (N7/E2, 148/128?) Error Total 27
45 The gatekeepers: the sons of Shallum, the sons of Ater, the sons of Talmon, the sons of Akkub, the sons of Hati'ta, the sons of Sho'bai, a hundred and thirty-eight.
42 The sons of the gatekeepers: the sons of Shallum, the sons of Ater, the sons of Talmon, the sons of Akkub, the sons of Hati'ta, and the sons of Sho'bai, in all one hundred and thirty-nine. (N7/E2, 138/139?) Error Total 28
46 The temple servants: the sons of Ziha, the sons of Hasu'pha, the sons of Tabba'oth, 47 the sons of Keros, the sons of Si'a, the sons of Padon, 48 the sons of Leba'na, the sons of ag'aba, the sons of Shalmai, 49 the sons of Hanan, the sons of Giddel, the sons of Gahar, 50 the sons of Re-ai'ah, the sons of Rezin, the sons of Neko'da, 51 the sons of Gazzam, the sons of Uzza, the sons of Pase'ah, 52 the sons of Besai, the sons of Me-u'nim, the sons of Nephush'esim, 53 the sons of Bakbuk, the sons of Haku'pha, the sons of Harhur, 54 the sons of Bazlith, the sons of Mehi'da, the sons of Harsha, 55 the sons of Barkos, the sons of Sis'era, the sons of Temah, 56 the sons of Nezi'ah, the sons of Hati'pha. 57 The sons of Solomon's servants: the sons of So'tai, the sons of So'phereth, the sons of Peri'da, 58 the sons of Ja'ala, the sons of Darkon, the sons of Giddel, 59 the sons of Shephati'ah, the sons of Hattil, the sons of Po'chereth-hazzeba'im, the sons of Amon. 60 All the temple servants and the sons of Solomon's servants were three hundred and ninety-two.
43 The temple servants: the sons of Ziha, the sons of Hasu'pha, the sons of Tabba'oth, 44 the sons of Keros, the sons of Si'aha, the sons of Padon, 45 the sons of Leba'nah, the sons of Hag'abah, the sons of Akkub, 46 the sons of Hagab, the sons of Shamlai, the sons of Hanan, 47 the sons of Giddel, the sons of Gahar, the sons of Re-ai'ah, 48 the sons of Rezin, the sons of Neko'da, the sons of Gazzam, 49 the sons of Uzza, the sons of Pase'ah, the sons of Besai, 50 the sons of Asnah, the sons of Me-u'nim, the sons of Nephi'sim, 51 the sons of Bakbuk, the sons of Haku'pha, the sons of Harhur, 52 the sons of Bazluth, the sons of Mehi'da, the sons of Harsha, 53 the sons of Barkos, the sons of Sis'era, the sons of Temah, 54 the sons of Nezi'ah, and the sons of Hati'pha. 55 The sons of Solomon's servants: the sons of So'tai, the sons of Hasso'phereth, the sons of Peru'da, 56 the sons of Ja'alah, the sons of Darkon, the sons of Giddel, 57 the sons of Shephati'ah, the sons of Hattil, the sons of Po'chereth-hazzeba'im, and the sons of Ami. 58 All the temple servants and the sons of Solomon's servants were three hundred and ninety-two. (Additional Entrants in the List, Akkub, Hagab, Asnah & Sotai..4 Contradictions) Error Total 28+4=32
61 The following were those who came up from Tel-me'lah, Tel-har'sha, Cherub, Addon, and Immer, but they could not prove their fathers' houses nor their descent, whether they belonged to Israel:
59 The following were those who came up from Tel-me'lah, Tel-har'sha, Cherub, Addan, and Immer, though they could not prove their fathers' houses or their descent, whether they belonged to Israel:
62 the sons of Delai'ah, the sons of Tobi'ah, the sons of Neko'da, six hundred and forty-two.
60 the sons of Delai'ah, the sons of Tobi'ah, and the sons of Neko'da, six hundred and fifty-two. (N7/E2, 642/652?) Error Total 33
63 Also, of the priests: the sons of Hobai'ah, the sons of Hakkoz, the sons of Barzil'lai (who had taken a wife of the daughters of Barzil'lai the Gileadite and was called by their name). 64 These sought their registration among those enrolled in the genealogies, but it was not found there, so they were excluded from the priesthood as unclean; 65 the governor told them that they were not to partake of the most holy food, until a priest with Urim and Thummim should arise.
61 Also, of the sons of the priests: the sons of Habai'ah, the sons of Hakkoz, and the sons of Barzil'lai (who had taken a wife from the daughters of Barzil'lai the Gileadite, and was called by their name). 62 These sought their registration among those enrolled in the genealogies, but they were not found there, and so they were excluded from the priesthood as unclean; 63 the governor told them that they were not to partake of the most holy food, until there should be a priest to consult Urim and Thummim.
66 The whole assembly together was forty-two thousand three hundred and sixty, ( no actually the total is 31089 ) Error Total 34
64 The whole assembly together was forty-two thousand three hundred and sixty, ( no actually the total is 29818 ) Error Total 35
67 Besides their menservants and maidservants, of whom there were seven thousand three hundred and thirty-seven; and they had two hundred and forty-five singers, male and female.
65 Besides their menservants and maidservants, of whom there were seven thousand three hundred and thirty-seven; and they had two hundred male and female singers. (N7/E2, 240 Singers or 200 Singers?) Error Total 36
68 Their horses were seven hundred and thirty-six, their mules two hundred and forty-five,
66 Their horses were seven hundred and thirty-six, their mules were two hundred and forty-five,
69 Their camels four hundred and thirty-five, and their asses six thousand seven hundred and twenty.
67 their camels were four hundred and thirty-five, and their asses were six thousand seven hundred and twenty.
70 Now some of the heads of fathers' houses gave to the work. The governor gave to the treasury a thousand darics of gold, fifty basins, five hundred and thirty priests' garments.
68 Some of the heads of families, when they came to the house of the LORD which is in Jerusalem, made freewill offerings for the house of God, to erect it on its site; 69 according to their ability they gave to the treasury of the work sixty-one thousand darics of gold, five thousand minas of silver, and one hundred priests' garments. (How much was given Nehemiah 7 says 1000 darics of Gold Ezra2 says 61000? Nehemiah says Basins given, Ezra keeps mum, was it given or not? Ezra says silver given, Nehemiah keeps mum, was silver given or not? How many garment given 530/100? Total 4 Contradictions) Contradiction Total Error Total 36+4=40
In total, 40 Errors in 2 Chapters… And you say this from God….
Some other Contradictions:
a) The "Lord" tempted David . . . 2 Samuel 24:1 or "Satan provoked David . . . I Chronicles 21:1
(b) 700 or 7000? "Horsemen" or "Footmen" . . . ? 2 Samuel 10:18 vs 1 Chronicles 19: 18
(c) Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths? 1 Kings 7-26 vs 2 Chronicles 4:5
(d) Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000? 2 Chronicles 9:25 vs 1 Kings 4:26
(e) Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn't he? 1 Samuels 28:6 vs 1 Chronicles 10:13-14
(f) Heaven, no man hath ascended John 3:13 Contradicted by. 2 Kings 2:11 Elijah ascended, and Genesis 5:24 Enoch ascended.
(g) Jesus lost "None" of his disciples John 18:9 Contradicted by. He lost only "One" John 17:12
(h) ALL are sinners 2 Chronicles 6:36 Contradicted by: "Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT commit sin. . ." 1 John 3:9
I would be waiting for your reply....
Bye for now... Ali
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