Christian/Muslim ThreadsIslam is for Kool-Aid DrinkersWell. I must say that you’re a confident bugger. Answering your question, the word ayat has been used for all the scriptures that have been sent down to previous nations, including the scriptures of the people of the Book. As Allah confirms: 'O ye children of Adam! Whenever there come to you apostles from amongst you, rehearsing My Ayats unto you - those who are righteous and mend (their lives) - on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve' (7:35). The substitution spoken of here is concerned with one of two things: a- The substitution of one Scripture in place of another. b- The substitution of one verse or law within a Scripture with another in a subsequent Scripture a- The first meaning is given evidence to in the following verse: "Then we revealed to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming previous scriptures, and superseding them." 5:48 Here, the words "superseding them." confirm that the previous scripture were substituted with the Quran. b- The second meaning is also given evidence to in the Quran where various issues that were prohibited to the previous people of the book were made lawful in the Quran. As an example, we are told in 2:187 that sexual intercourse between married couples during the nights of the fasting month was made lawful, while it was prohibited previously. We are also told in 6:146 that God prohibited for the Jews all animals with undivided hoofs; and of the cattle and sheep the fat was prohibited. These were made lawful in the Quran. This verse 16:101 does not speak about the substitution of one verse in the Quran with another. The evidence to that is given within the same verse (16:101): The key to the meaning of the verse lies in the words: "........they say, 'You made this up" Here we must stop and ask, who is likely to tell the messenger "You made this up"? And why? For sure it cannot be his followers, his followers are not likely to tell him: "You have made it up"................it has to be those who do not believe in him, which focuses on the followers of previous scripture who feared that their scripture was in danger of being "substituted" with the Quran............ What more evidence to that more than the fact that till this day, the Jews and Christians accuse Muhammad that he fabricated the Quran himself! If this accusation is from the Jews and Christians we must then ask, are they accusing Muhammad of substituting one verse in the Quran with another? The Jews and Christians do not care if one verse in the Quran is substituted for another, after all they do not believe in the whole book............. they will not complain that one verse in the Quran is being substituted with another! However, and if their Scripture is being substituted by the Quran, they will immediately accuse the messenger that the Scripture he brings (Quran) is not from God but that he "made it up" himself. These glorious words "You have made it up" indeed stand as true indicator from God Almighty that the substitution spoken of in this verse is not related to one within the Quran, but indeed a substitution between two scripture. As mentioned before, the substitution of the previous scripture with the Quran is confirmed in 5:48 Source: http://www.quran-islam.org/160.html Simple because that they are Christians or Jews. Forget following the laws of the Quran, they do not follow their own laws. As Muslims, we believe that the Bible contains it’s truths along with falsehood. I have stressed this point many times. The Quran being the scripture that distinguishes where lays the falsehood. In the Sirah of the Prophet, a Jewish woman committed adultery and was brought before the prophet for her punishment. The Prophet in return called the Rabbis and asked them what their own books said in regard to adultery. They didn’t give the punishment of death, so the former Rabbi Abdullah bin Salam revealed that indeed their books called for an adulterer to be put to death. The verses is highlighting that people of the book neglect their own laws. It concerns only the issue of law and nothing else. And I hope that you’re aware that the Quran was revealed and instructed by the Prophet the order of the chapters and verses. Whether it was in a book format doesn’t change the fact that the Quran was present in its whole. Many scholars of Islam! To name a few: Ibn Kathir, At-Tabari, Al-Qurtubi and the list goes on… Yes. It confirms that Jesus existed. That Moses came with the Torah. That the Prophets that the Bible mentions all existed. And so on… These are the conformations. However, the Quran also is the Criterion. It confirms the truth in the Bible and condemns the falsehood.
Return to my previous post (which by the way is not my own work) and re-read what was written. It’s obvious you skim through the posts of others.
"The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. NOTHING SHALL ABROGATE HIS WORDS." 6:115 Muhammad did tricks eh? What is this a magic show? Nevertheless, if you’re going to make such an accusation that my Prophet raped women, please present you’re evidence for it. The prohibition of alcohol. But of course you would have known that if you took the time to actually read my post before responding. :roll: I’m sorry. You’re not making sense. Please re-phrase that. Thanks Before you get ahead of yourself Lib, show me where you found a contradiction. You claim that the Quran is lying. Fine, but the verse specifically said contradictions. What is truth? We are adamant that Jesus never claimed divinity, you say otherwise. If the Quran says that those people called themselves after pious people (as we Muslims do) then that’s that. Do you have documents from that era to prove the Quran otherwise? Is it a statement that sounds impossible to be true? It’s a normal human thing to do. You do not need to be a Jew or a Muslim to want to name you’re child after a pious person. My goodness... Peace and Blessings be to the Believers |
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