Liberate wrote:What and where is this liquid that is in the thorax that produces sperm and ovum? You are saying you didn't say sperm and ovum is produced from between the backbone and the ribs, when it is implied with the nonsense above, where are your scientific journals that support your singular assertion that sperm and ovum are produced from a liquid in the thorax ( showing me pictures of male and female reproductive systems as if it supports your point of view means you are taking your audiences for idiots)
In my post, that seems to go over your head, it was a question as to what is the sperm and the ovum created from not where they come from .
If you think you are in a position to be condescending I suggest that you read and think about what you are typing to me.
So then let man (male and female) consider from what they are created from. They are created from ejected liquid coming out from between the backbone and the ribs "
Your quote above from the koran.
"Man" is translated from the arabic word "al-insaa" which is dual literally meaning "the two human beings" expressing the two gender of male and female.
The mistake here is when people read this they thinkin of only the gender of male when it is refering to both male and female.
"Liquid" is translated from the arabic word "maa'a" whereas there is no word for semen or sperm in the context.
You next attempt to tell us that this fluid refers to a phantom liquid and not to semen as opposed to the tafsir.
This liquid that both male and female are created from is ejected comming out from between the backbone and the ribs which is the THORAX area of the spinal.
You then tell us in the quote above that this liquid is coming from the thorax area between the backbone and the ribs
AND THIS LIQUID IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CREATION OF MALES AND FEMALES.
Where in the world you Christians keep having this illusions of semen and sperm is beyond me.
Whos Thorax does this Liquid come out from. It is the Thorax of both male and female and not just the male in which the Subject is refering to both male and female.
You stress even more in the quote above that this liquid is coming from the thorax of not just males but females.
So what is this liquid that lodges in the Thorax of both male and female that we are created from?
Males produce sperm but what is the sperm created from in the body ?
Females produce ovums which are follicles before ovulation. So what is the follicles created from in the body ?
Before they become living organisms ie cells they where created from something in the body
H2O wrote:So what is this liquid that lodges in the Thorax of both male and female that we are created from?
Males produce sperm but what is the sperm created from in the body ?
Females produce ovums which are follicles before ovulation. So what is the follicles created from in the body ?
Before they become living organisms ie cells they were created from something in the body
You then ask
us rhetorical questions as to where sperm and ova are produced in the quote above? did you forget that in your previous post you had already mentioned this same fluid comes from the thorax AND THE LIQUID PRODUCES SPERM AND OVA?
Liberate wrote:Do you even realise the logical implications of your entire argument?
Maybe if he divorces his wives allah will grant him virgins submitters and obedient ones <-- all this coming from the first person? Does this sound like such a statement came from the first person who is suppose to be divine? with two conditional clauses?
Maybe if ? There are two seperate clauses and now because of your predjudice prognostic outlook you are now trying to make them as one.
The only person who is prejudiced and not looking at the statement with an ounce of logic is you:
The two words have no difference in terms of meaning. You use 'maybe' and 'perhaps' to indicate that something is possible, although you are not sure about it.
Source (English doctor):
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/edu/edu ... 8/dr.shtml
Does the above sound like it came from God? Would God say something He is not sure about in addition to a conditional clause?
" Maybe if you stopped talking unbelievable dribble that people will take you seriously"
According to you:
In the Arabic it indicates that IF you had stopped talking unbelievable dribble it was more than likely in certainty that we will take you seriously.
Is our taking you seriously a certainty or is it dependent on two clauses a conditional clause 'if' and a propositional clause 'maybe'/'perhaps' 'perchance' /'possibly'?
You are now saying I am grouping Maybe and if as one clause, and you say that they are two separate clauses. How does this help you in the slightest?
"maybe[a conditional clause] his lord [what is this third person possessive pronoun doing here if this is coming from the first person?if [a second conditional clause] he divorces his wives that allah[/b][allah is still a third person] will give him virgins, obedient, submitters."
PLEASE TELL US IF MAYBE OR PERHAPS IS IN THE ARABIC OF THAT VERSE?
Would you care to give us your definition of maybe, and tell us how you equate a propositional clause like maybe with the actions of God?
Do you know who this group are that you are quoting?
I suggest you speak to humble guest about this particular group before you make a greater mockery of your beliefs.