Do you honestly think I am impressed by you showing me english definitions of what maybe is?
Is this your way of debate to go into wanton irrelevant dribble that have no logical bearing on the subject at hand.
Your god says "maybe[a conditional clause] his lord [what is this third person possessive pronoun doing here if this is coming from the first person?if [a second conditional clause] he divorces his wives that allah[/b][allah is still a third person] will give him virgins, obedient, submitters."
In the Arabic it indicates that IF Muhammad (s.a.w.) had devorced his wives it was more than likely in certainty that Allah would have given him wives better than them.
Do you even realise the logical implications of your entire argument?
Maybe if he divorces his wives allah will grant him virgins submitters and obedient ones <-- all this coming from the first person? Does this sound like such a statement came from the first person who is suppose to be divine? with two conditional clauses?
I suggest you learn what propositonal clauses are and their uses:
The two words have no difference in terms of meaning. You use 'maybe' and 'perhaps' to indicate that something is possible, although you are not sure about it.
Source (English doctor): http://www.nationmultimedia.com/edu/edu ... 8/dr.shtml
Does the above sound like God? Would God say something He is not sure about in addition to a conditional clause?
" Maybe if you stopped talking unbelievable dribble that people will take you seriously"
According to you:
In the Arabic it indicates that IF you had stopped talking unbelievable dribble it was more than likely in certainty that we will take you seriously.
Is our taking you seriously a certainty or is it dependent on two clauses a conditional clause 'if' and a propositional clause 'maybe'/'perhaps' 'perchance' /'possibly'?
We find it to be a mere polite, rather than harsh, way of a warning towards the wives of the prophet.
I suggest you read the hadiths surrounding that incident, your so called prophet was having sex with his christian slave girl paying her no dowry (rape) amidst his promise to Hafsah that he wouldn't do it again after she caught him in the middle of it.
H20 wrote:
..Males produce sperm but what is the sperm created from in the body ?
Females produce ovums which are follicles before ovulation. So what is the follicles created from in the body ?
Before they become living organisms ie cells they where created from something in the body.
Liberate wrote:
The above is your quote, the fact that you even proceeded the back bone and the ribs nonsense in bold font tells me you are just another illogical fundamentalist muslim that is taking your audience for idiots
Duh !
Were you only reading the large font sized 'ovum' quote of yours?
Here let me quote it again just in case you didn't read the entire quote in context the first time round:
So then let man (male and female) consider from what they are created from. They are created from ejected liquid coming out from between the backbone and the ribs "
"Man" is translated from the arabic word "al-insaa" which is dual literally meaning "the two human beings" expressing the two gender of male and female.
The mistake here is when people read this they thinkin of only the gender of male when it is refering to both male and female.
"Liquid" is translated from the arabic word "maa'a" whereas there is no word for semen or sperm in the context.
This liquid that both male and female are created from is ejected comming out from between the backbone and the ribs which is the THORAX area of the spinal.
Where in the world you Christians keep having this illusions of semen and sperm is beyond me.
Whos Thorax does this Liquid come out from. It is the Thorax of both male and female and not just the male in which the Subject is refering to both male and female.
So what is this liquid that lodges in the Thorax of both male and female that we are created from?
Males produce sperm but what is the sperm created from in the body ?
Females produce ovums which are follicles before ovulation. So what is the follicles created from in the body ?
Before they become living organisms ie cells they where created from something in the body
The above is your quote, the fact that you even proceeded the back bone and the ribs nonsense in bold font tells me you are just another illogical fundamentalist muslim that is taking your audience for idiots
What do you mean when you tell us that sperm is created from a liquid produced in the thorax, but the quran is not referring to semen when it says you are created from water gushing forth" in contradiction with the tafsir?
what do you mean when you tell us ovum is created from a liquid produced in the thorax and that the quran is not referring to 'sexual fluids' of the woman in contradiction with the tafsir?
This is your tafsir if you want to say it doesn't apply to you because your knowledge of arabic is greater than whoever wrote the tafsir, I suggest you devise a proper name for your cult make your own masjids and start proclaiming to every sunni muslim whose masjids you use that their religion is wrong and you have the onus on truth.
(He is created from a water gushing forth.) meaning, the sexual fluid that comes out bursting forth from the man and the woman. Thus, the child is produced from both of them by the permission of Allah. Due to this Allah says,
(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from `Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn `Abbas that he said,
(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).'' Concerning Allah's statement,
What and where is this liquid that is in the thorax that produces sperm and ovum? You are saying you didn't say sperm and ovum is produced from between the backbone and the ribs, when it is implied with the nonsense above, where are your scientific journals that support your singular assertion that sperm and ovum are produced from a liquid in the thorax ( showing me pictures of male and female reproductive systems as if it supports your point of view means you are taking your audiences for idiots)