H2O, et al
re: let's get it straight.
I agree.
Somehow I get the impression by you admitting oral reports are unreliable then problem goes away, couple things wrong here. Necessary to admit of which is already established and the problem remains. Stating you quote only the agreeable traditions is irrelevant to question concerning relationship of the assumed uncreated and the created. More accurate illustration of that relationship is, Quran and Sunna. Latter being actual source for interpreting Quran and held legitimately determined by Hadiths. Should a Muslim be willing to garbage the Hadith he may as well do likewise to the Sunna. However, unless you're confirming Liberate's contention of personal brand of Islam, you can no more reject, as false, one contradicting or ludicrous tradition than single Quranic word. How then convenient and expedient for collapsing argument, Islam is suddenly 'Quran only' and to lay blame on Liberate and Newseed. Since you know which reports contradicts the Quran, provide the reference containing the false traditions. Show us your proof if you are truthful, so we may determine whether or not the higher Quran and Sunna depends on the questionable. Or is the challenge just divine prerogative of Muslims.
Dawagandist show little conscious in telling every non-Muslim that Islam Canonical traditions are untrustworthy like the Bible. Nonetheless, the dawaganda has caused an unexpected development, many Muslims identifying themselves conservative even orthodox, reject traditions whenever contrary to their sensibility without considering implications. One thing I am very sure of, most Muslims believe the road to Janna is paved with good intentions.
joseph